TechTV pits iTMS vs buymusic

Discussion in 'General Mac Discussion' started by Ambrose Chapel, Aug 5, 2003.

  1. Abstract macrumors Penryn


    Dec 27, 2002
    Location Location Location
    Conclusion: iTMS kicks ass. :cool:

    I don't like the fact that they said WMA files and AAC files are of similar quality. I haven't used iTMS yet and havent listened to AAC files closely, but I would think they are better than .wma files. I hate .wma.
  2. MacBytes macrumors bot

    Jul 5, 2003
  3. tpjunkie macrumors 65816


    Nov 24, 2002
    Well, they do give most of the advantages to iTMS, but its a little irksome that they keep mentioning that buymusic has 300,000 tracks. I believe that the actual number is closer to 200,000. Of course that was from, but that article has now been picked up by some other sites. The one thing I'm really hoping for is that the windows version of iTMS isn't crippled with DRM like all the other services out there.

    EDIT: Did anyone else notice that their slogan at the end of their commercial "Music for downloads for the rest of us" is very similiar to the slogan apple used for the original iMac, "A computer for the rest of us?"

    Clearly stolen off of Frank Costanza, "Festivus for the rest of us!" :p
  4. Ambrose Chapel thread starter macrumors 65816

    Ambrose Chapel

    Jul 24, 2002
    Plus the 200K number for iTMS was what they had on Day 1. Since then they've been adding a lot more...I wonder where they stand now.
  5. bosskxx1 macrumors newbie

    Dec 10, 2001
    One thing that has already been proven is that buymusic lied about how much songs it really has. Someone actually added all of the songs together and got something a little over 200,000 songs.

    So all categories basically go to iTunes
  6. nagromme macrumors G5


    May 2, 2002
    Some bizarre things there. BuyMusic has FEWER licensing issues than iTunes? They are unable to recommend iTunes over BuyMusic?

    Still sounds like they get the basic point, though.
  7. Rasmuskl macrumors member

    Jun 27, 2003
    Bronx, New York

    Not very happy with that review.
    It seemed like they knew that no one would buy that was a decent service, so they raised some of the bad issues and put a nice spin on them.

    Quote from the article:

    Unlike iTunes Music Store, which you must access through your iTunes software, you access BuyMusic from any computer running Internet Explorer.

    Any Computer or a machine running Windows.

    And then this unmitigated subscription that because BM says they have 300,000 tracks that they do. This has been proven wrong several times. When is some "journalist" actually going to raise this point (not just us mac fans, who can actually research).

    And then he makes BM win on pricing, saying that the 70c per track is "awesome" yet admitting it is only on old and not so popular tracks (bring up Tommy Lee - atleast BM also know that they need to discount his music to sell it).

    And then his final comparison that BM has decent DRM's. What world is he living in. A world where the music he downloads is paid by the show, he is not keeping himself etc.
    For the average consumers i hope those DRMs would be enough incentive to stay far away. Especially with all the horror stories that if your download goes wrong they still charge you and if you ask for help they prompt answer is . F U you where stupid enough to lease music from us.

    And Finally they don't even address the issue of selling your private information as they please.

  8. kcshaffe macrumors newbie

    Jun 17, 2003
    nj, usa
    bad review all around. they even compare Kazaa as 'free' and having 'millions of songs'...but no reference to legality ( legality even a word?)
  9. mislabeledstar macrumors regular

    May 12, 2003
    Los Angeles
    I was just reading the TechTv article on BuyMusic vs iTunes and they said "BuyMusic offers SDMI-compliant 128-Kbps WMA files. Sound quality is more or less the same as with iTunes tracks."

    I've been reading up on the comparisons of MP3 vs AAC, but I was wondering if anyone had information on WMA vs AAC quality or even WMA vs MP3 to get an idea of what compression, size and quality differences are?
  10. NavyIntel007 macrumors 65816


    Nov 24, 2002
    Tampa, FL
    #11 has a bias to windows machines. That's why they failed to mention that iTMS has added songs. I would gather that there's about 225,000 songs now if not more.
  11. Jerry Spoon macrumors 6502a

    Jerry Spoon

    Jan 8, 2002
    Historic St. Charles
    Kazaa should have been kept out of this. Seems like the author wanted to not make any final opinion. Have some guts man!
  12. GeeYouEye macrumors 68000


    Dec 9, 2001
    State of Denial
    Here's how the number of songs was found at pick a genre, go to list all, and add the numbers given. (This method doesn't work for the iTMS because Apple doesn't restrict songs to one genre) Here are the results:

    Alternative: 49,065
    Blues: 5,718
    Classical: 22,920
    Country: 17,089
    Electronic: 2,627
    Jazz: 26,326
    Metal: 8,779
    New Age: 5,089
    Oldies: 2,380
    Pop/Rock: 13,120
    R&B/Soul: 20,309
    Rap/Hip Hop: 13,018
    Reggae: 2,672
    Soundtracks: 340
    World: 13,678

    TOTAL: 203,130

    Not quite as low as, but nowhere near 300,000 either.
  13. acj macrumors 6502

    Feb 3, 2003
    Thanks for your insight.
  14. eric_n_dfw macrumors 65816


    Jan 2, 2002
    DFW, TX, USA
    Do they really? I Tivo The Screen Savers and watch it all of the time, but rarely watch the other shows. TSS is very pro-Mac ever since OS X came out and most of the people on there seem pretty well platform nuetral in their comments. Heck, even Peter Norton was wanting an iBook a while ago.
  15. Bendit macrumors regular

    Jul 22, 2003
    Toronto, Canada
    Patrick tried an iBook for a while and said it wasn't for him. He liked it but for him a windows laptop was better. Now he has this HUGE pc laptop, don't know what brand it is but it looks really crappy (dell or gateway laptop). Whatever happened to this T series thinkpad?

    TSS and Call For Help are very Pro-Mac in my opinion, but the other shows are hosted for people who are quite honestly, idiots. They can't see past the "95% of people use windows so it must be better" argument. The reason TSS and Call For Help use macs is because they are the only real computer expert/literate people on the network.
  16. eric_n_dfw macrumors 65816


    Jan 2, 2002
    DFW, TX, USA
    Patrick's PC is a Gateway - it was given to him by them. (He said so the day he got it) I don't know if it is a permanent "gift" or if it's a loaner though.

    Also, a week or so ago, Kevin was asked what he was using for music and he said he has an old G3 Mac he uses exclusively because iTunes is so awesome. :D
  17. Bendit macrumors regular

    Jul 22, 2003
    Toronto, Canada
    Ugh. I can't stand Kevin.

    What's with him and going arround calling himself a hacker when he's just a script kiddy?
  18. MacMaelstrom macrumors member

    Jul 22, 2003
    Down the hall and to the right.
    Brett also did some psuedo iPod versus the iPod. iPod wins. :)

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