texas town prosecuting breast-feeding mom under kiddie porn laws

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  1. rainman::|:| macrumors 603

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    they're saying that breastfeeding a child is using "a child younger than 18 years of age, to engage in said sexual conduct and sexual performance."?!?! The holy hell?? Every parent I know of has at least one picture of their kids playing in the bath, i can't believe they're trying to attach a sexual connotation to it. I think the photo clerk was a bit perverted here, not the mother...

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  2. Macette macrumors 6502

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    why is it that so many people are incapable of separating the wonderful, affirming, life-giving act of breastfeeding from sex/kiddie porn? they're the sick ones, if you ask me. they're the ones who need help.
     
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    Why stop at breast-feeding. All babies come out of their mothers vaginas SURELY that must be sexual too...:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
     
  5. RandomDeadHead macrumors 6502

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    I second that notion!


    But I must admit that I got aroused and kind of jelous when my wife used to breast feel our son. My son stole my wifes breast's from me, and that made me sad:(


    sorry I am quite trashed
     
  6. MrMacMan macrumors 604

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    Its Texas, check back in a few days she will get a really harsh punishment, :eek: .
    geez, soon they will ban breast feeding...
    'its a sexual activity' *cough* bull****.
     
  7. MorganX macrumors 6502a

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    The charges were dropped that's good. I don't have a problem with having the photos reported and investigated.

    The kid was touch his genitals, she produced a prescription for his rash, end of story.

    There's more child abuse than folks being inconvenienced by the process. There are so many kids missing and murdered regularly that you never hear about it's sickening. As long as the outcome is just I don't have a problem with it.
     
  8. wdlove macrumors P6

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    Another politically correct action going too far! The pictures were for private use. Breast feeding is a natural act, life giving function, it's in no way sexual.

    I'm heartnend to hear that the officials investigated & dropped the charges. They made the correct decision! :)
     
  9. pseudobrit macrumors 68040

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    No smily faces yet -- they still won't give them their kids back! :(
     
  10. macfan macrumors member

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    Incidents of this kind are common around the country as police and citizens tend to take issues like this very seriously. Would any of the anti-Texas bigots care to apologize for and retract the comments that these people would be "fried" or get a "harsh punishment" considering that incidents like this happen in many parts of the country and the charges have been dropped?
     
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    nope, sorry.

    I'd like to see people being brough up on child pornography charges when all they were doing is breast feeding their child...

    edit: its not this case either, its 'texas justice' in general... I believe like 15 people sentenced to death were wrongly accused and like 5 died before the truth came out...
     
  12. macfan macrumors member

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    First, if you read the article, you would see that there were multiple photographs that made the clerk at the store suspicious, this was not a single photo of a baby breast feeding.

    Second, why don't you name the 15 people in Texas who were innocent but were sentenced to death instead of just saying that you "believe" this to be the case?
     
  13. wdlove macrumors P6

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    So if the charges were dropped, why haven't the children been returned to their parent. The children need stability, keeping them from the parents is causing great harm! :(
     
  14. DakotaGuy macrumors 68040

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    A mother who breast feeds is commiting a sexual act with a minor? YOU HAVE TO BE KIDDING ME! Sometimes I wonder what will become of this country someday. ;o(
     
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    I cannot believe you are supporting putting charges on this mother. I read the article, yes it said several photo's. This person obviously wasn't doing something wrong. Suspicious, I would report if there was something sexual going on (I hope I don't need to go into specific things). Not breast feeding.

    I said 5 you killed that were wrongfully convicted, 10 got out before they were to be put to death. I watched it on like 2 news stations, I cannot dig up the report, sorry. Do I think 2 separate news organizations are wrong, eh, probably not something they would lie about...
     
  16. macfan macrumors member

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    I'm glad you cannot believe I am supporting charging this mother since I am not. However, the clerk was acting responsibly given the circumstances. By law, if the clerk was suspicious, and that series of photos might well have made a reasonable person suspicious, he or she had to notify the police. It's the cops who blew it in the case.

    On the 15 innocent people on Texas death row, it's not a question of whether a news organization would lie about something. It is, rather, a question of whether your own biases might have caused you to misunderstand the reports or attribute them incorrectly. This is why I would rather see actual detail than the memory of a biased observer.
     
  17. Simon Liquid macrumors regular

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    Maybe now I can prosecute my parents for keeping that picture of me in the tub at age 2 1/2 to remind me what a cute baby I was...
     
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    oh my, were they TOUCHING YOU? :eek: ;)
     
  19. rainman::|:| macrumors 603

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    it's true that the photo finisher was doing his/her job, and that's the law, but i think from that point on the cops handled it very poorly. One look at the photos should have made them shrug it off. Hell, they could have simply gone and asked her about them, she could have produced an explanation and the ointment at that time. They chose to go way overboard...

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    I've always wondered why the hell it's okay for a photofinisher to look at the photos anyway.

    I mean, if I have a digicam and snap a few pics with it and upload them into iPhoto, is Apple allowed to peruse what I've snapped? Is there any real difference?
     
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    there should be a law against photo finishers looking at your private photos. i under stand some may seem porno graphic and may have some cause for concern. but what about your privacy. it seems like they have so much access to you private picture but we have no laws to protect our sel=ves from them. we have laws for everything else. what is the hoto guy/girl is a crazed lunitic or is stealing your pictures?.. i bet the photo finisher in texas was a crazy old white lady who thinks every thing is perverted and is her job to be in your business..
     
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    This is where the assumption comes in. you are assuming that after one look, reasonable people would conclude the pictures were normal family photos.

    Until you see the photos you can't assume anything. You guys really have no clue how many children are regularly sexually abused and never rescued.

    Better to err on the side of caution. There's a simple solution, if you must take questionable nude photos of your kids playing with or scratching their nuts, use a digital camera or develop them at home. Of course, for the kids that are being abused, we can only hope their abuser is dumb enough to take photos to the photomat.
     
  23. zuffen macrumors member

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    Just thinking aloud

    with digital cameras, child porn and deviant porn is being swept further into the dark underbelly of society.

    I agree that action on the side of caution is important, but obviously the training of the officals in this case was woefully inadequate in dealing with this situation.

    Having my home be a foster home and living with children under state protective service I have seen the effects and scaring caused by inaction on the community and near families of the victims.

    Most of the time DHS steps in after the fact, courts and laws have given DHS unheard of rights and controls over the civl liberties of the victims and those involved. These agencies really have very little positive impact, they cost money and cause just as much harm.

    Prevention is what is key.

    In protecting the weak and vulnerable we have lost touch with justice and accountability.

    The attendant at the photo shop saw something odd in their opinion, and turned it in to authorities. It shouldn't be a law to force the photo shop to report these things. But at that time ,an educated and trained panel should have reviewed the evidence to determine intent. This is before law enforcement or the DAs office or DHS should have gotten involved.

    Our system is very flawed and is dire need of attention.

    This can happen to anyone anywhere. And we stand by and allow this legal behavior.
     
  24. hacurio1 macrumors regular

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    What is wrong with you? How can breast feeding pictures be suspicious. Even if there were several pictures! Give me a freaking Break!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    My mom has many hundred pictures of me and my sisters when we were babies and several of those pictures are with us taking our first baths and some of them are with us breast feeding!!! The only way you might find that suspicios is if either you have a very sick mind (pervert) or you have never had kids and don't know how normal breast feeding is!!!!! I insist, breast feeding is normal!!!!!!! taking pictures of your wife breast feeding is normal as well!!!!!!!!
     

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