The end of my love affair with Apple

Discussion in 'Macintosh Computers' started by shane-o-mac, Aug 26, 2005.

  1. shane-o-mac macrumors regular

    shane-o-mac

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    I admit I got caught up in the buying experience. Lets face it the Apple Stores are so cool and macs look amazing, even down to the packaging. Plus, no viruses and OSX10 is a beautiful interface.

    Bottom line is after having my powerbook for several months I still get just as pissed at it as I use to my old HP.

    I dont need much, just a faitfull fast browser that can surf the net and a cpu that handles a few running applications quickly and efficently.

    Why does my powerbook not want to do this. I have yet to find a great browser and I have them all, Camino, Safari, Mozilla, Omni, and even explorer. Hell sometimes I have to run multiple browsers for different tasks. Camino is super fast but sucks when typing text, cant do spell check or copy and past text. Safari is so freakin slow. None of them can open cool apps like in mtv.com where all I want to do is watch a video, I mean for god sake I paid $2000 for a computer to just surf the internet and use word...is it asking too much.

    All my browsers have frozen and had to be forced quit at some point. I can never chat on chat sights cause the java scrips seem too complicated for the web browsers. I give up, would go back to pcs but what is the point I then get to contend with pop up ads and spyware b.s. I would pay 10 million dollars for a computer that just worked correctly all the time! Sorry for any spelling errors, I used Camino (which we know does not have spell check), I should of used Safari, but it took too damn long to download the page.
     
  2. mad jew Moderator emeritus

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    Prerequisite for complaining is at least 1GB of RAM. How much have you got? Maybe you need more?
     
  3. kalisphoenix macrumors 65816

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    I have the Rev C (There is no Rev D AL 15") 1.67 GHz PowerBook and I have to say I can't fault it at all, something may be wrong with your machine. Safari works great here, when I was using Panther I didn't think much of it at all and was using OmniWeb, but with Tiger I can't complain at all about Safari, it's nice, stable, and fast.

    Are you having trouble on any sites in particular or is it all just random?
     
  5. MrSugar macrumors 6502a

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    Man I have to disagree with you here. Browsing on mac seems to be fine. I have a 1ghz g4 17" powerbook that I am using full time right now and it is working great. Spell check is smooth, pages load quickly, and I don't have any problems loading video. The only thing that runs slower is flash, but even then it's not bad.

    I have 1.25 gigs of ram, so you might want to check into your RAM as suggested above. Otherwise, I have to say something sounds wrong. Even firefox, and opera run well for me. They take a bit of time to load but after the initial load time everything runs great.
     
  6. TheMonarch macrumors 65816

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    The only people who think browsing the web on a mac is fast are the people who haven't used a PC in a while (or have, but the PC is 10 years old).

    Internet browsing on a mac is just plain slow. Period.
     
  7. After G macrumors 68000

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    Browsing on a Mac is fine.

    There are many reasons that the Mac will feel slower, including using a vector windowing system, the way that Mac browsers load pages (waits until all the info is available, then renders it all at once), etc.

    However, try loading 25-50 pages as fast as you can on a PC. The PC will crawl at a certain point, even with non-IE browsers.

    The Mac keeps right on ticking.

    And before anyone says anything, I do this with alarming regularity...

    Have you tried Opera for Mac?
     
  8. ajampam macrumors regular

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    I never find safari "slow"....and I have only 512 mb of RAM...open multiple pages or as tabs I have no problems at all with it....and yes I have been using PCs too...I have a vaio K-23 and I do not find it screaming past my mac......huh!? My gut feeling says its some system issue.....
     
  9. AmigoMac macrumors 68020

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    as for the title,

    The is no affair with apple, it's a relationship :)

    I had affair with Linux before coming from win to mac, now we're just *friends* and meet each other once in a while, but just to say hello. :p
     
  10. marmiteturkey macrumors 6502

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    I use a new T42 Thinkpad every day at work, with both IE6.5 and Firefox - neither are as fast or reliable as Safari, either on my Powerbook or Powermac...
     
  11. kalisphoenix macrumors 65816

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    Windows is the girl that everyone's been with.
    Apple's a high-maintenance girl, kinda Prom-Queen and floaty but you'd be surprised how loyal she is...
    FreeBSD is definitely the tough girl from down the street who is twice the man you'll ever be.
    OpenBSD is the fat, ugly one that no one wants to poke... but if you tried, she wouldn't let you anyway.
    NetBSD seems to know everyone, but nobody seems to really like her.
    IRIX is the supermodel, on top of the world fifteen years ago, who's been acting in porno for about five years now. She has a cousin by the name of SunOS, who changed her name to SOLARIS after dropping acid and watching a Russian sci-fi flick.
    And Linux? She's a schizo... definitely that Sheedy chick from "The Breakfast Club."
    BeOS and AmigaOS only come out at night these days, leaping upon the backs of unwary passersby, sinking shining teeth straight into the unprotected jugular...
     
  12. AmigoMac macrumors 68020

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    Those statements make apple a 3% market. :rolleyes:

    [​IMG]


    Hello? I work with 2 PC's and a Mac (Yes, sorry you read well, PC's)
    and browsing in a PC is damn slow, Firefox is a lot faster than IE which is forbidden in my company (I'm the IT head as well ;) ) but in general Safari kicks its butt as user-friendly speedy browser.

    Edit: Found!
     
  13. AmigoMac macrumors 68020

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    It's only 10:00 AM and this made my day! :p
    Yeah, I work with windows :eek: but live with and love my mac :cool:

    Edit: ummm, new status for me @ MR, that made my day.
     
  14. floatingspirit macrumors 6502

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    Isn't his post what you dudes call "Trolling"?
     
  15. TheMonarch macrumors 65816

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    Uh oh, wait a minute, I wasn't trolling. I have a Mac, I love my mac, But I also have a PC, and I'm not going to lie to myself or anybody else. Browsing on my PC is just so much faster. Do I like windows, NO, but I'm no 'fanboi' who is blind to any problems my mac has.

    Try it yourself.

    Get a Clean PC, and a Mac. (please, no dual 2.7 vs 1.5 celeron or whatever)

    Make sure that they have equal RAM
    go to a website such as newegg.com

    And see what happens.
     
  16. AmigoMac macrumors 68020

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    I don't follow myself for one site but for my daily work at the office, visiting customers and suppliers websites, waiting a flash file to load, downloading files, that's real life for me. 1 site is not a reference my work is. ;)
     
  17. iMeowbot macrumors G3

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    Javascript really is horrendously slow in Safari. It's much improved in 1.3/2.0, but still needs a lot of work. The nightly Webkit builds are making seriously good progress on that problem, but it's not quite there yet.

    Newegg.com is a great example of a Safari killer, as is "check all" on Horde mail pages.
     
  18. TheMonarch macrumors 65816

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    Amigomac. I understand, but you're not getting my point. You're telling yourself "well, I won't have to go there anyways". That is not what I'm trying to say, what I mean is that macs do have trouble with web browsing, whether you go to that site or not, and that many times it really isn't as fast as its pc counterpart. I'm not saying that macs suck or anything, I love them, but you got to admit that there are some weak points.
     
  19. AmigoMac macrumors 68020

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    Weak points are all around, we all have weak points...
    Agree, you're not playing troll and I'm not playing zealot. :)
    You can continue at newegg.com and I do my job ;) J/K
     
  20. TheMonarch macrumors 65816

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    Agreed.


    [BTW, its not just the newegg website ;) ]
     
  21. MacTruck macrumors 65816

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    I disagree. My T42p is faster at browsing then my dual G5.
     
  22. MacTruck macrumors 65816

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    Bottom line is this. Firefox on my thinkpad is way faster IMHO than any browser on any mac. Scolling is way faster and typing is more responsive. That said. XP Sucks. Its full of viruses and spyware and I hate using it. This is where the mac shines. On raw horsepower with big apps like video encoding the mac rules again.

    For business apps which I use frequently like Office and especially outlook the PC rules.

    Its simple. Get a pc and a mac and use the tool for the job. I like them both and would never commit to just one platform. The pc can't do it all and neither can the mac.
     
  23. bodeh6 macrumors 6502a

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    I love Safari. It is very fast and very compatible. There is only one website that I visit monthly that does not work with Safari. I don't know what you are talking about slow browsing. It is quick. Rendering pages is quick. Flash and Java apps/movies run very smoothly. I am using the computer in my sig.
     
  24. ITASOR macrumors 601

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    Hehe....tell me about it. And I manage to click it EVERY TIME.
     
  25. ravenvii macrumors 604

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    *laughing* Oh really? I had up to two months ago, a 2003-era powerhouse gaming machine, and I browse the web regularly between the Mac mini and the PC. No, I'm not going to go the cliched "and the Mac browsed just as fast!". I'll admit the Mac browses a bit slower. But not slower enough that it makes such a big difference. I still prefer to use the Mac to surf, because it gives me a much better experience as a whole (whoa, I don't use my Mac just for browsing! Who'd thunk?!). I sold the PC two months ago.

    But if you prefer faster web browsing on top of a crappy, unstable OS that needs maintenance every other day, more power to you.
     

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