The Immaculate Conception of a shark

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    iBlue

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    wow

    http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/6681793.stm

    Nature finds a way.
     
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    That's pretty koolio...
     
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    Abstract

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    Will males really not be needed?
     
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    "nature finds a way"

    ahhhh, memories of Jurassic Park. and indeed its true. :D
    the adaptability of some species is just amazing.
     
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    I love sharks!
    They're incredible creatures, and they've just got even better!!
     
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    Its not a good thing though as the article suggests. Its a bit like inbreeding and so the qualities of the animal will diminish. I.e. its ability to destroy new viruses etc.
     
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    iBlue

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    Sharks are amazing. As I understand it, over millions of years they've evolved very little (especially in the case of great whites) because they're already so efficient as is.

    edit: It does suggest a possible weakening of the offspring produced in this way but it's a fascinating development none the less.
     
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    very true, but however, it gives the species a greater survival rate though. say one lone female reproduces, gives the offspring a chance to find a male when the mother couldn't.

    and well lets not forget that sharks are one of the oldest species on this planet.
     
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    They've done well so far though, haven't they. I guess thay haven't just developed this ability...
     
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    So now you have a young male, and an (older) female, swimming all alone together. What happens next? :rolleyes:


    One other point: They said if the mother was genetic code AB, then the fatherless male would be either AA or BB (that's how I read it.)

    If it was AA and they both mated again, then the result would be either AA again or AB again.

    So any grandchild would be a clone of either the father or the mother (who would also be the grandmother:) ). Is that right or am I oversimplifying it?
     
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    Your overcomplicating it... the baby is dead! :p
     
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    Maybe now we know why they have changed so little.
     
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    They also have their own 'cure' for cancer too. They tan like ourselves to avoid damage from the sun. :eek:
     
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    Look, all this proves is that science is wrong, biology is dumb, and that God must be real for this to happen.

    *cough*
     
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    So is the baby a clone of the parent then, having the same DNA?
     
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    If sharks are so smart then why do they live in igloos? :confused:
     
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    I think a few years ago, some scientists managed to get a mouse egg to fertilize itself, but that's a bit different.


    Now, who wants to help me nail this new shark to a cross? :D
    Hoo boy, I'm gonna pay for that one...
     
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    Yea, if it can reproduce itself, there is not going to be much genetic variation and as a result if this was to happen a lot then problems could occur.
     
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    mouse lay eggs?
     
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    Strangely enough, human females have eggs too. You should get out more :rolleyes:
     
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    sorry, i was thinking with a hardshell.

    I had always remembered that 99% of mammals give live birth.
     
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    Not to be anal, but the Immaculate Conception refers to Mary's conception, that is a conceptioin without the stain of original sin, not Jesus'. So yes, the shark could be a new Jesus, but I'm afraid it was no Immaculate Conception, at least by strict definitions. :p ;)
     
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    My understanding is that original sin does not apply to animals, so it was indeed an Immaculate Conception of Shark.

    (I can't believe I'm having this conversation..)
     
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    I guess technically that is correct, but then again, why would you title a thread with something so commonplace?

    (Neither can I.)
     

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