The new G4 - when they will introduce it?

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  1. ricotta macrumors newbie

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    The new G4 line - when they will introduce it?

    And will it have dual processors in all models?

    Or maybe one single 933 Mhz, DP 1 Ghz, DP 1,2 Ghz?

    And why is it called Jag-Wire - when this beatiful animal is called jaguar?

    And what was steves telephone number exactly (in the adressbook) - i couldnt read it cause the mpeg 4 stream was too bad?

    And why was this sony guy stealing up my time?

    And why there were 5 bottles of water, if steve finished the keynote more then 4 of them left full?

    And is this always the same jeans he wears over the past 4 years?

    And why is this ichat icon a small guy running away?

    And why all the guys in the auditorium have a beard?

    And what was the Sushi restaurant they wanted to go after the keynote? Lets meet him....
     
  2. kettle macrumors 65816

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    Re: The new G4 - when they will introduce it?

    the answer is H2O, Aqua - it's just there for show. If Steve had managed to make thorough use of that much water he would have had no time left to do anything else. A bit like 10.1.5 and a G4 really.
     
  3. ShaolinMiddleFinger macrumors 6502a

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    Re: The new G4 - when they will introduce it?

    Soho Sushi? Maybe
     
  4. Durandal7 macrumors 68040

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    Re: The new G4 - when they will introduce it?

    The Apple website refers to it as Jaguar in all the documentation I've seen.
     
  5. alex_ant macrumors 68020

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    There will be no new G4. This quote just in from Mr. Jobs himself:

    "F*ck this PowerPC sh*t, we're going back to M68K."
     
  6. spacepower macrumors member

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    Brit english VS American english

    to the person who asked this
    "And why is it called Jag-Wire - when this beatiful animal is called jaguar?"
    Well I assume the you are talking about the pronunciation? There are many regions in the USA where people pronounce the word "jaguar" like "jagwire"
    It is just a regional dialect. I am an American, and must admit that many times we butcher the Queens/Kings english pronunciations ;)
    I grew up saying "jagwire" which I was tought in school. But I have since learned the correct way.

    By the way "Jaguar" is the code name because it is a fast cat, and 10.2 is significantly faster than previous versions. Also "Cheetah" had already been used as a code name for an Apple product back in the days

    Peace
     
  7. beerstine macrumors newbie

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    Maybe August, but then again...

    Even if they have a PowerMac product introduction in August as rumored, I have to wonder if they would actually ship units before Jaguar comes out August 24. The only reason they would is to rope speed starved professionals for an extra $20 bucks for the upgrade a couple of weeks later. After .Mac and QuickTime 6 Pro, I wouldn't put it past them.

    Shipping in the last week of August or so would give them another couple of weeks to sell off the old stock or perhaps let Moto get a few more chips ready so they don't have the huge backlogs they've had with previous rollouts. Hell, it could be a combination of both.

    Frankly, I'm becoming more doubtful that if the line is updated it will be all that big a deal. Maybe we'll get a new motherboard and DDR RAM, but I'm beginning to think the speed bumps will be minor. They couldn't even bump the speed of the $2000 flagship iMac.

    Kind of makes you wonder if they can even pull off something really competitive with the PC world by MWSF.
     
  8. Paolo macrumors regular

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    jaguar

    I thought the whole Jaguar vs Jag-wire was just a play on words... he knows how it is pronouced correctly, but he pronouces it that way because it signigantly speeds up the computer (ie wire) I thought it was just that sort of corny joke!?
     
  9. Nipsy macrumors 65816

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    Re: Brit english VS American english

    Well, as a Londoner living in San Francisco, I have to argue a little bit.

    The American pronounciation is always 'jag-whar', whereas the English prononciation is 'jag-you-are'. Jag-wire is a bastardization of either (or a side effect of a Deep South upbringing).

    Regarding the new G4s, I'm hoping that we'll see the following trend from Apple: We have a press conference to update speeds and hardware features often, and as they become available (as opposed to waiting for a MW). Like the Xserve, iPod, Ti updates, etc.

    We'll use MacWorld as a twice yearly venue to discuss our emerging software/device/display technology.

    This would allow Apple to update speeds willy nilly, when they have the technology available to do so, and help alleviate the pre MW sales slumps. It would also put speedier chips in our machines more often, and without delay. Several times in the past, faster machines have been held from production for months, so they could be introduced at a MW.

    This also helps schedule major OS revisions in the future. X.1 releases can be soft dated to MWs, and ship dates can follow closely.

    Just a thought...
     
  10. johndz macrumors newbie

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    G4 Towers?

    It seems that Apple is starting to spread out the introduction of hardware/software. In the past Macworld shows were blockbusters. Now in between shows will get special events of product introductions.In September Seybold show will bring some type of tower inprovements, or by Apple's new standards maybe a special event on their own in sometime in August.
     
  11. Raiden macrumors regular

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    Re: Brit english VS American english

    Wasnt 10.1 codenamed puma?? I think steve has got this cat codename thing going.

    Betting pool- whats the next 10.3? release called? My bets on Tiger.
     
  12. SilvorX macrumors 68000

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    i thought os 9.2 was codenamed puma :S

    maybe the next one will be codenamed feliX ;)
     
  13. Gena macrumors newbie

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    pricedrop on g4s ?

    does anyone think MWNY will actually lead to a pricedrop on the g4s currently available?

    is the fact that it hasnt happened already an indication that it isn't going to? or is it possible it could still happen on friday.
     
  14. alex_ant macrumors 68020

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    Re: pricedrop on g4s ?

    Apple already has a Power Mac promo going on (buy one with a 17"+ Cinema Display and get $300-$500 back), and the rumored new Power Macs are expected to arrive a month from now, so I would say it doesn't seem likely, but there will almost certainly be a ton of reduced-price G4 towers in the "Specials" section of the Apple Store after the new ones arrive.

    I think the current G4 tower prices are set to drop like a rock everywhere after the new ones come out, because they're currently selling for (in my opinion) a lot more than they're worth, and nobody is buying them.

    Alex
     
  15. Gena macrumors newbie

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    thanks alex -- another question

    thanks alex -- good to know.

    i agree they are overpriced at 2999 for a 1ghz dual.

    what do you think _is_ a reasonable selling price, and what do you think the price will drop to by end of august?

    i'm wondering because with the work i'm doing right now, i can't really wait until the end of august to buy one - -which is frustrating. i've seen refurbs here and there on smalldog for around 2400, and now that MWNY doesnt seem to be unveiling anything thats going to lead to an immediate price drop, i'm wishing i had just bought the last one of those i saw. who knows how much longer it will take for small dog to offer that deal again.
     
  16. alex_ant macrumors 68020

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    Re: thanks alex -- another question

    It's hard to say what the current dual GHz Mac will be worth after the new ones come out, because nobody knows what the new lineup will look like or what they'll all cost. One thing is for sure though, the current dual GHz Mac is going to take a massive plunge in value the day the new Power Macs are released. If the very optimistic but unlikely rumors of dual 1.4s, dual 1.2s, and dual 1s at the current price points turn out to be true, then the current dual GHz will likely see its value ($3000) halved in a single day. :eek: ("Street" prices, not Apple Store prices) But if something more plausible like dual 1.2s, dual 1.0s, and a 933 or something happen all at the same price points as today's models, then the dual GHz might "only" lose $800 or so.

    ...Maybe you could lease for a month, and then buy? :)

    Alex
     
  17. OKComputer macrumors 6502

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    9.2 codnamed Luna 10.1 was puma I think


    Powermacs are coming. dont worry your little head
     
  18. Gena macrumors newbie

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    Re: Re: thanks alex -- another question

    Awesome idea. I think you just solved my problem.

    now my next question is -- when you lease a mac, do you agree to ultimately pay the current price? and how _do_ you lease a mac?
     
  19. alex_ant macrumors 68020

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    I have noooo idea. ...Anybody?
     
  20. topicolo macrumors 68000

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    THat old bag Sculley once implemented a similar system during his stay as head honcho of Apple. I think he once allowed a "take home" promotion, wherein people were allowed to take home a mac for free for 24 hours and if they liked it, they could buy it. Unfortunately, most of the macs were returned damaged, and some never got back at all.

    Just a pointless anecdote:cool:
     
  21. mrMahann macrumors newbie

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    tiger/price plunge

    altho possible for prices to plunge, i'd not be surprised to see them hang up there. not too long ago was looking for dualie 450/533 and they were still pricey; started looking for single processor boxes and <i>they</i> were right up there also. prices on macs stick pretty well, if history is any indication of what's gonna happen next time 'round.

    "tiger"? hmmm perhaps but they've been choosing more exotic names. "cheetah" or "leopard" if we've not had 'em; "lynx," "bobcat," "caracol," "serval" may be too small to insinuate the robustness of the OS.
     
  22. Gena macrumors newbie

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    for anyone interested -- info on leasing

    the only place i found that leases macs is this place, and it doesnt actually seem like the best option. below are the details.


    Gena, the answer to your first question is yes. You will be tied to the
    price of the products at the time the lease begins, even if the price drops
    the next day. The FMV is determined at the end of the lease term. The answer
    to your second question is: a lease must be a minimum of 12 months, and
    leasing is only available to businesses, not consumers. Please let me know
    if you have any more questions.
    Dana

    Dana Burkwist
    Zones Leasing Specialist
    Dana.Burkwist@Zones.com
    (800)248-0800 x3003
    fax#(888)485-3273
     
  23. Gena macrumors newbie

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    august

    who feels all of august will go by without a drop in prices on G4s.
     
  24. The_Mac_Man_02 macrumors newbie

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    I have it on reliable sources that no PMs are shipping until end of Aug possibly even September. They have already started building the next crop of Macs
     
  25. Lz0 macrumors regular

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    Buying computers is always a nightmare, you choose your moment and step in, knowing that three weeks later there will be a new better faster model. I have just put off buying a new G4 untill after NY hoping for a processor upgrade. Looks like I will just have to get a dual 1GH with the Titaniun card. One thing I would like to see is a 19 inch flat screen, the 22 and 23 are way to expensive.
     

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