The New Intel Chip and How It Relates To Mac Gaming

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  1. thechris69 macrumors 6502

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    I was just wondering how the intel chip will have a difference on the mac gaming industry, hopefully it will be easier to port great pc games onto mac with the new intel chips
     
  2. mad jew Moderator emeritus

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    Well, the biggest problem at the moment is the lack of support for Microsoft's DirectX and the change in processor doesn't change that. However, Intel Macs should be able to dual boot into Windows from where we'll be able to play regular XP games (hopefully). Of course, this is still just speculation. :)
     
  3. 7on macrumors 601

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    Until Windows supports EFI then I doubt it. The new Macs don't use a BIOS.
     
  4. GFLPraxis macrumors 604

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    That doesn't matter. DirectX is what matters.

    The only thing I think the Intel chip affects is the ability to run Cedega. w00t!
     
  5. kainjow Moderator emeritus

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    How do you know that they don't use a BIOS?

    I thought EFI is the BIOS? I'm confused.

    How will dual booting work if Windows doesn't support EFI?

    :confused:
     
  6. MRU macrumors demi-god

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    Windows Vista supports EFI, if you can get hold of Vista Beta you can tryit..
     
  7. greatdevourer macrumors 68000

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    FYI, EFI is not a BIOS, just as Open Firmware is not a BIOS. They are the same type of program as BIOS, and they serve the same function, but they are not the same thing.

    How long before M$ release, along with Office:Mac and Messenger:Mac, Windows:Mac :p
     
  8. Annon macrumors member

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    Yeah, hopefully Cedega can be ported over now.
     
  9. Counterfit macrumors G3

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    Well, if MS doesn't port DirectX (highly doubtful), then running Windows on a Mac will be your only option. But Windows doesn't support EFI, so you're up a creek for a little while...
     
  10. shortyjj macrumors regular

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    On a slightly related note, I'm still curious to hear analysis of the X1600.
     
  11. BlizzardBomb macrumors 68030

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    I'm pretty sure that:

    X600 XT has 4 pixel pipelines, X1600 has 12 pixel pipelines
    X600 XT has 2 vertex processors, X1600 has 4/5?
    Clock speeds would be similar but RAM is much faster on X1600.

    We'd have to wait for benchmarks on Macs (www.barefeats.com would be your best bet) but if you scout Google, you'll find PC benchmarks and see it's a very powerful card :)
     
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    What does DirectX have to do with Macs? I say we have 0% chance of seeing DirectX on OS X.
     
  13. thechris69 thread starter macrumors 6502

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    i dont mean to sound like a naive noob, but what is direct x?
     
  14. Annon macrumors member

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    Microsoft does not have to port DirectX for us to see games on the Mac. Linux users have been using Cedega and Wine for a long time.

    Now that we're on X86, it should be possible to port those programs to OS X.
     
  15. greatdevourer macrumors 68000

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    Well, they almost work. They just need X11. And they don't do sound. Or OpenGL. Or anything useful. Funnily enough, the only things they can get to work are spyware/virus scanners :p
     
  16. risc macrumors 68030

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    Oh yes Cedega and Wine 2 reasons to stop porting games natively. Personally I hope the developers keep releasing native games just universal binaries. I'd be horrified if the OS X gaming scene went the way of Linux.
     
  17. EssentialParado macrumors 65816

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    Wow. No one has even mentioned that before, and I don't think anyone's even thought of that either... They've all been thinking it would be Apple or hackers to get Windows running on Macs. No one even thought Microsoft might do it themselves. They could build all the drivers too. It makes total sense. Microsoft aren't a hardware company, if they could sell Windows copies to Mac users too, I don't see why they wouldn't.

    Wow... good call greatdevourer.
     
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    I'm sure Safari will sure feel "real snappy." :D
     
  19. GFLPraxis macrumors 604

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    I doubt it will. IMHO the reason Linux is that way is that it's nearly impossible to guarantee it will run with all the thousands of different versions of Linux on dozens of different architectures without distributing it in source code like most Linux apps are- and no commercial developer would EVER release the source code to their game.
     
  20. GFLPraxis macrumors 604

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    Um...precisely. That's why it matters. It's not the Intel processors or the BIOS, it's DirectX that is the problem.
     
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