The Official "What the *#!)# happened to dreamhost?" Thread

Discussion in 'Web Design and Development' started by dpaanlka, Jul 17, 2006.

  1. dpaanlka macrumors 601

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    None of my dreamhost sites are working, nor is dreamhost.com itself working, as of 8:05 PM CST.

    Anyone else?
     
  2. WildCowboy Administrator/Editor

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  3. ChrisBrightwell macrumors 68020

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  4. yankeefan24 macrumors 65816

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    The site in the first post worked for me.

    The site in your sig (if that's one of them) also works for me.
     
  5. WildCowboy Administrator/Editor

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    Yes, it's back up (at least for now). Definitely wasn't working 30 minutes ago, but it's now working fine.
     
  6. dpaanlka thread starter macrumors 601

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    It's not. That site is hosted on an 8100 in my basement, running 7.6.1. It's uptime is way better than that of Dreamhosts over the past few months ;)

    My dreamhost sites are back up now though.
     
  7. mnkeybsness macrumors 68030

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    many dreamhost sites are still not up (including mine)... they make me very angry sometimes
     
  8. radiantm3 macrumors 65816

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    My sites are still down as well. If they have another major downtime like this again, I'm going to have to find a new host.
     
  9. dornoforpyros macrumors 68040

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    eh yes, they go down occasionally, maybe slightly more than some other host, but I'm not switching anytime soon. Then again none of my sites are making me any money. My portfolio site should never go down, but it's not like I'm actively seeking work right now.
     
  10. radiantm3 macrumors 65816

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    I'm fine with occasional downtime as it's expected to happen when being on a shared server. But I've notice my site go down rather frequently lately and today it's been down for a good 4-5 hours. :eek:
     
  11. ChrisBrightwell macrumors 68020

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    Same here.

    dimwell.net has been down for several hours.
     
  12. dornoforpyros macrumors 68040

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    yeah today has been a little heavy on the downtime I agree. If I was running business sites I might be more concerned, but I'm not.
     
  13. eva01 macrumors 601

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    And the overselling is starting to take its toll
     
  14. radiantm3 macrumors 65816

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    This has nothing to do with overselling.
     
  15. dpaanlka thread starter macrumors 601

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    They moved me to the Adams servers from Barranca about a week ago to alleive the downtime. Today was the worst I've ever seen. Several hours.
     
  16. zflauaus macrumors 65816

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    I signed up with Dreamhost in December and I have not had any downtime (knock on wood) at all. If I have had any, it was all on my part. I'm happy with Dreamhost. Just wish it would not have as much downtime for others.
     
  17. mnkeybsness macrumors 68030

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    Do you constantly ping your server? Their entire network was down for some 4-5 hours today. If you host with them, your sites were down. Heh... even their sites were down.
     
  18. zflauaus macrumors 65816

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    I can't constantly ping my server, I'm on a dial-up connection.
     
  19. eva01 macrumors 601

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    Trust me, when a company is selling 1TB bandwidth and 20GB space for 8 dollars random things start to happen.
     
  20. ChrisBrightwell macrumors 68020

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    What do you use to monitor uptime?
     
  21. radiantm3 macrumors 65816

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    I never knew hardware failures were a result of selling cheap hosting services.
     
  22. ITASOR macrumors 601

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    They are when you pack 100 times more people on a server than should be, because you assume that people aren't REALLY going to use the amount of space they paid for, and SHOULD all be able to use only the server's available resources.

    When people start actually using their 1TB bandwidth and such, the strain on the server gets pretty high. 4000 scripts running at the same thing can't be good either.

    So yes, I would say hardware failures can be a result of selling cheap hosting services.
     
  23. radiantm3 macrumors 65816

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    So I guess I can assume all the hosting companies that are revered on macrumors (like A Small Orange) have never experienced any hardware issues? Keep in mind here I'm not defending dreamhost at all. I was pretty pissed about my sites being down for 6+ hours. I'm just tired of people blaming overselling on every hosting issue when it's directly unrelated. Sure indirectly it's related, but with argument, you can also say they are having hardware failures because they turned on their servers in the first place.
     
  24. radiantm3 macrumors 65816

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    1:21am here in California and my site's are down again. Woo hoo! :eek:
     
  25. Knox Administrator

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    It's impossible to know what their business finances are like exactly, but it's not unreasonable to assume dreamhost don't have high margins on their products (because they appear to be overselling and are just very cheap in general) so they are likely to want to make savings in other areas. The questions are therefore:

    • Did they have on-site parts/spares for their equipment?
    • Did they purchase cheaper equipment that could be more likely to fail?
    • Do they replace older equipment soon enough, regardless of whether it's broken or not?
    • Did they have 'hot', tested, backups of equipment ready to drop in quickly?
    • Do they have sufficient excess capacity in their equipment & network to route around failures?
    • Did they have enough staff available to handle multiple simultaneous problems?

    If they wanted to make savings then all these areas are places that could be affected, and would cause downtime that would not otherwise have happened. According to their status page, the switch that failed was old (should it have been replaced previously?) and when they put in a new switch it had a different config (did they do enough testing before deploying it?). That fault and the replacement then caused a cascade effect onto other systems.
     

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