the sleep thread

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  1. shadowfax macrumors 603

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    I don't know about the rest of you, but i'm rather fond of sleeping; as a student, i don't usually manage to get a whole lot, though.

    but i'm wondering, how do you guys get to sleep? has anyone actually tried "counting sheep" (or some other barnyard animal)? has it worked for you? do you just kind of settle down and lose consciousness?

    for my part, when i lay down to go to sleep, my mind usually races around with no particular place to go. i think about things i did during the day, things i wished i'd done/said, a homework problem i'd been trying to solve before going to bed, and so on, heck, i was trying to get to sleep when i had the idea for this thread.

    lately, i've been having a good bit of trouble getting to sleep. i think it might be because i'm often rather hungry before bed, but i'm not sure.

    also, i sleep on my stomach with my head turned to one side or the other. how do you sleep?
     
  2. edesignuk Moderator emeritus

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    Oh hell yeah, I love, and need my sleep! I can't funtion on less than 8hrs and on weekends like to get a good 10+ hrs (sometimes 14 :eek: )!! :D
     
  3. WinterMute Moderator emeritus

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    I don't go to bed unless I'm dog tired, otherwise I'll lie awake for hours worrying about going to sleep...

    This means I rarely get to bed before 1:30-2:00am, sometimes as late as 4:00am. Luckily, it doesn't matter how much sleep I get I always feel like s*it in the morning, so 4 hours or 12 its cool.
     
  4. shadowfax thread starter macrumors 603

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    haha, i can certainly identify with that. though on 4 hours of sleep i tend to keep feeling like crap for hours into the day, and usually require a nap in the afternoon.

    what about sleeping positions, though? i can't get to sleep on my side/back if i try, at all. i have to roll over onmy stomach to sleep, otherwise it's all but impossible to sleep.
     
  5. howard macrumors 68020

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    if i woke up on my own and got 7 hours of sleep i'd feel great

    if i woke up to an alarm and got 9 hours of sleep i'd feel like crap.
     
  6. baby duck monge macrumors 68000

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    usually sleep 4-6 hours. sleep in any position available. fall asleep to cartoons i have seen a million times playing on my computer.
     
  7. sillymacgirl macrumors member

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    I used to lay in bed for hours before I feel asleep. Now, almost as soon as my head hits the pillow I'm out. I've found out though that if I sit idle just before bed(like watching a movie or something) I have a hard time going to sleep, but if I stay active until my body tells me it needs to sleep, I fall asleep fast and stay asleep all night.

    I'm not saying that would work for you, everyone is different, you just have to try different things until you find out how your body functions. And I tend to sleep at least 8 hours, any less and I'm a complete grump the next day.

    Oh yeah, and I have to fall asleep on my stomach, head turned usually to the left. ;-) I don't know how anyone can sleep flat on their back...geez, talk about uncomfortable!
     
  8. jefhatfield Retired

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    i read the same book on math philosophy an history...that does the job

    if what i am reading is interesting to me, then i will not fall asleep very fast
     
  9. MacBandit macrumors 604

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    I use a meditation technique. I focus on the back of my eyelids and then I mentally close my eyelids again and again. With each time I mentally close my eyelids it gets darker and darker. At some point you just lose consciousness. It keeps your mind from wandering and it for some reason for me shuts me down. I can fall asleep any where with this technique.

    You might be wondering where this technique came from. Well it's kind of interesting. Sometimes when I'm asleep or falling asleep I am conscious of it. One time when I was falling asleep I saw the back of my eyelids getting darker and darker as if I had multiple eyelids and each was closing slowly one after another. Remember what happened at that time I started repeating it consciously and found it worked great.
     
  10. tazo macrumors 68040

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    Heh shadowfax, we have more in common than just hazel eyes apparently.

    I also sleep on my stomach, with my head almost always pointing to the left. My mind also 'races' as you put it when I am trying to get to sleep.

    Personally counting sheep or something like that has never helped me fall to sleep; while thinking of something relaxing usually does.

    -tazo
     
  11. shadowfax thread starter macrumors 603

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    heh heh... maybe if i just like... stopped taking naps in the afternoon...

    but i love naps. they're great for putting off work and stuff.
     
  12. PixelFactory macrumors regular

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    A technique i use when my mind is racing is to do free writing. Just get a note book and write whatever your thinking for three full pages. Doesn't matter if it makes sense and don't try to force it to make sense. I helps clear my mind by getting everything I was thinking about on paper. If that doesn't work I get out of bed and do something productive... clean the house, wash dishes, get ahead on something for work. The key is to do something proactive, watching TV will just keep me awake a long time.
     
  13. Mblazened macrumors regular

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    I smoke a bowl and squeeze one off.... then i'm out like a light.
     
  14. sonofslim macrumors 6502a

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    my dad is clergy... i learned at an early age to sleep sitting straight up with my eyes open.

    it's more like half-open with my eyes rolled back a bit, but it'll fool the casual observer. it'll happen on its own if i'm extra-tired; i've terrified more than one person by falling asleep in the middle of their boring stories. i guess it looks like i'm in a trance or just plain dead.
     
  15. rainman::|:| macrumors 603

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    i've had a hard time with insomnia in the past. usually, if you're on a regular schedule of waking and sleeping, it will correct itself-- unfortunately this includes weekends, which is sort of out of the question for many.

    i tried a variety of drugs, and some would get me pretty stoned, but none really helped me sleep that much (a few of the hardest ones did, but they can't be taken long)... so, in the end, i found that meditation was the answer. in a simpler version, just use visualizations, like imagine your dream computer setup or something similar that you can really get in detail on, it will keep your mind from the negative and anxiety-provoking thought patterns that often cause problems.

    it's different for me tho, as my problem was a side effect of social anxiety disorder, whereas yours is a problem in itself (probably). i guess the biggest thing to remember is not to get frustrated, these things take time :)

    pnw
     
  16. Kwyjibo macrumors 68040

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    shadow your in college, you obviously not drinking enough, if you were you'd be out like a light when you lay down...

    Maybe your going to bed too early or getting up too late ... We usually hang out in my dorm till atleast midnight watching family guy or something like that then we play cards. ... by one or two i'm able to sleep really easily within ten minutes so maybe the answer is to do more stuff
    stay awake unti lyour tired... as a last resort my trick is to control my breathing.... when your sleeping your taking prety even breaths ... so i start out making them equal and then making them longer... this usually works for me because i dont' remember it not working when trying to sleep
    good luck shadowfax time to enjoy college a bit more
     
  17. shadowfax thread starter macrumors 603

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    heh, why think about your dream computer when you could think of your dream girl? well, obviously for you it's a little different, but still... ;)
     
  18. shadowfax thread starter macrumors 603

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    damn, man, a little bit of wine or port in the evening, probably just 2-3 glasses, would so solve all my sleeping problems. the only thing is, i'm not 21 and my parents live 6 hours away. my dad would actually probably buy alcohol for me if i lived closer; it's not like he cares, 'cos he knows i'm not one to get drunk, but as the situation is, i have no way of getting much. so that's out of the question. stupid laws, why can i smoke and look at porn and vote and drive but not drink alcohol? this country is so f***ed up.

    anyways, as to my attempted sleeping hours, i actually tend to go to bed around 1-2 AM and get up at 8AM on weekdays. when i don't have too much work, i get to bed at 12 or so. somehow it takes me an hour or two before i can fall asleep. on weekends, i tend to go to bed between 2 and 3 AM and get up at 10 or 12. but again, i don't tend to get to sleep for at least an hour or so. it's not my bed, i know--the dorm bed sucks pretty bad, but i have the same problem at my aunt's house, and she's got a pretty nice guest bed. ohhh well, i still make it through the day, or take a nap :)
     
  19. themadchemist macrumors 68030

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    I either sleep on my side or my back...I'm not sure if sleeping on your stomach is good for you. I, at least, don't find it comfortable.

    Well, I go to sleep by hitting the bed and falling asleep. I'm a student, too, and I could probably fall asleep ANY TIME, provided I hit the bed.

    Often, I probably wouldn't even need a bed to fall asleep. I'm getting more sleep this year, though, so this hasn't been a problem...Thus far.
     
  20. shadowfax thread starter macrumors 603

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    i don't think that sleeping on your stomach is bad for you per se. i hope not, i've been doing it for at leat 14 years in my recollection. it's my experience from talking to people that you have a pretty specific position that you sleep in, whether that be on your back, side, stomach, or what, but in any case, people i talk to usually can't easily get to sleep in any other position.
     
  21. Nermal Moderator

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    I sometimes have trouble getting to sleep too. If it's really bad, I find it helps to think of a song that I know all the lyrics to, then sing it back to myself (silently). Often this helps put me to sleep.

    I tend to sleep on my stomach with my head facing left. My left arm seems to end up underneath my pillow, suppoting my head. My right arm can be anywhere, although I try not to lie on it (I've woken up several times with a numb right arm, can't be good for it!)

    I agree with howard, waking up to an alarm always makes you feel tired. And I often get woken up by really quiet things, several times I've been woken by my iBook's hard drive spinning up for no apparent reason. And several mornings I've been woken by a strange thumping noise on the roof. I eventually found out what it is, sometimes the neighbours' cat jumps up on the roof (by means of the tree by my window) and goes running around. That cat is crazy!
     
  22. wdlove macrumors P6

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    I sleep on my left side toward my stomach. Can't sleep on my back or stomach. I need at least 8 hours of sleep. Also have problems with my mind racing. I try to taking slow deep breaths, it helps to relax. Try to just not think!
     
  23. shadowfax thread starter macrumors 603

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    yeah, that's a great thing to tell impressionable young people ;)
     
  24. oldschool macrumors 65816

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    HOW TO FALL ASLEEP:

    Some sleep researcher in Japan determined that by rubbing your stomach in a vigorous circular motion, blood will be diverted to that particular area of your body, and the wild mind olympics most people experience whilst trying to fall asleep will be quelled.

    Just try it. And don't start using physiological and psychological facts to disprove it. It could just be a placebo effect, but it works.
     
  25. Counterfit macrumors G3

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    I have fallen asleep while listening to music for as long as I can remember. Used to be cassettes when I was young, then CD's, and when I got my own computer this past june/july, it took over, thanks to iSleep. If I don't have any music, I'll try to listen to any sort of random sound, which is hard while camping. As for position, back, side, and sometimes on my stomach. As long as my head is slightly elevated, I'm all set.
     

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