The Story Behind Sony PS3's Home

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    http://www.developmag.com/news/26393/Welcome-Home

    Very interesting. Keep up the good work Sony! Now really, imagine Home on the PS2 :p It woulda sucked big time. Good thing they put it on the PS3! :D
     
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    "Hey, that Mii thing and that Xbox acheivements thing look pretty cool. Why don't we have something like that?"

    "Dunno, wanna rip it off"

    "yeah, ok"
     
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    But Home (then named Hub) started out on the PS2....therefor Wii and Xbox 360 coppied from PS3...duh :rolleyes:



    Hub, might have been started on the PS2, but to say Xbox live and Miis didn't infulence it would be foolish
     
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    It's interesting to see how old some of these ideas are. Mii's dating back to the N64, Home as Hub.

    No lines to read between. It's just a little factiod.
     
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    I'll never understand this part of human psychology.

    Why is it so damn wrong to improve on something based on the improvements your competitors and/or friends have already achieved?

    IT ONLY MAKES SOMETHING BETTER!


    That is what mankind has been doing since it first started existing and the reason why the hell we keep advancing because we don't have to think and invent everything over and over again. Yet people keep on whining and yelling rip-off any chance they get.
     
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    Its not...but I like to buy innovative products. Copying prodcuts might be ok now, but what happens what the people innovating come out with something else new? They the copiers need to start copying again.
     
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    if you look on it the first real online game play was from X-Band which came out for the SNES, SG i cant remember if for any other system. also the atari Jag had online play. SEGA with the saturn was one of the systems you had real online play with, and could surf the net with a adapter, i know a few people that still use it today. you can go farther back to older systems but it wasn't the same thing. you can look at the way other people built on there online play ability as a whole really. just that each one does it differently
     
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    I like to buy products that work and maximize my experience...which ever company can pull it off I'm happy:)



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    Great point, seeing what your competitors are doing and improving on ubiquitous concepts is not a rip-off. If companies had that mentality we wouldn't have the iPhone because smart phones already exist, or iPod because portable music players already exist, and we wouldn't have GUI PCs because Xerox had the window and mouse interface first... can't be copy cats... fair competition is good. :cool:
     
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    Some would whine no matter what. They'd be saying how does this compare to achievement or Mii's if that wasn't included on the other end of things too.

    NO company completely innovates. Sorry, just doesn't happen anymore. Nintendo gets ideas from competition too...

    All are working towards doing the best product they can given their resources and what they currently know/are capable of...end of story. At least we have a vision for what the PS3 one will be...what's the Wii one past the Mii's? How does it tie into games. We're still waiting. Maybe something better, maybe a 360 rip off when all is said and done...

    Paul
     
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    I actually just saw a video about this on a friend's PS3. I think if Sony doesn't try to gouge the customers/PS3 owners too badly with the items for customizing yourself and your virtual house/space, then it could be the next big thing like MySpace.

    With that being said, I have a feeling I'll be picking up a PS3 in the future for Blu-Ray movie duties. I have an HD DVD player and the future is starting to look grim.
     
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    Still don't see this as something I'd really want or use personally...

    Then again, I've never really been a part of the "majority", so maybe the "average consumer" will love this.

    Problem is, it's not a game... it's a Lobby... that alone hurts it for the casual user I think. But hey, it's true... MySpace has worked and worked well, who's to say a 3D community website won't work? Just because CyberCities bombed doesn't mean something new in this generation like it wouldn't succeed, eh?

    Time will tell... but it's obvious that for the people who like it, it'll should be great.
     
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    I doubt it will ever be as big as Myspace. That name is synonymous with online communities. The Playstation brand isn't, it's gaming. Shoe horning Second Life and turning a quick to navigate 360 style online menu into a 3D world and charging for clothes isn't going to be a killer. Myspace is free through and through, and works on any PC with a web browser (to which there are uncountable quantities out there).

    What's worrying me is the 3D aspect of it. We're still using 2D interfaces because well, they're jolly quick. I trust Sony will make use a non-3D interface too?
     
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    Heh, they actually demonstrate some of this in the videos already.

    Nice 3D world, and you go to adjust your character (clothes, accessories, etc) and up pops a 2D interface. No, you don't walk into a big closet with your closes on hangers and actually takethem off and put them on... you use a 2D dialog.

    So a 3D interface to numerous 2D interfaces.... mmm... nice!
     
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    I am not interested in it either, but I'm sure they'll do something to mess it up.
     
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    Again, we're saying things about something that isn't even out yet. It's like saying Halo 3 will suck cuz Halo 2 sucked. Get a grip guys. Obviously fanboys like to be fanboys, but be rational once in a while? :rolleyes:

    Anyway, I think Home will be awesome, and might be as big as MySpace. We don't know how this will turn out, but we'll just have to wait until August to find out eh? Or wait until E3? :p
     
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    I'm not on about mixing up 2 kinds of interfaces, I'm on about an option to completely replace the 3D one with a fast 2D one.

    fiercetiger224, I never knew you were one of them people who can't talk about something before it comes out. Do you not know how discussion works? It's exactly the same as me criticising the possibility of a Bluetooth iPod because "Bluetooth is slow compared to USB", "Xbox 360 elite sucks because it only has HDMI 1.2"...
     
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    Your point is somewhat valid, BUT, this is SOFTWARE we're talking about. Things change with software, as opposed to finalized hardware. :rolleyes: I'm getting an Elite 360 when it comes out. :)
     
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    Well they have games that are much like games in yahoo.com, pool, bowling im sure they will have crap like poker and all that jazz. So if they do that, then maybe people will see it for more than just a lobby, and while you are waiting for friends or whatever you can waste a half hour playing billiards with some dude form Austrailia.
     
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    ^This is what interest me...it has little games like bowling and the likes to take up the wait time..which would be great(hate waiting) I could care less about the buying stuff because I hardly do it on live and VC..this will be no different.


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    So is this a mixed 2D and 3D world... like Paper Mario?

    I'm with the camp that says: improve and make things better no matter who came up with it 'first.'
     
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    Search on google or youtube for the Home preview.

    It's FREE for every PS3 user and looks fantastic imo. Just the fact of being free is good enough, and Second Life sucks compared to this (especially graphics).

    If it were Nintendo doing this we would have all fanboys drooling and saying "IT'S THE BEST THING EVER".

    Go check the preview, be unbiased, it looks pretty damn cool to me.

    Actually, I never thought of buying a PS3 until now :)
     
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    I love it when folk say "if X did it you would like it". Have you ever stood back and realised "hmm, why aren't I navigating Xbox Live or my computer in a 3D environment"... because it's slow and clunky. I wasn't mad keen on Mario Sunshines little menu system (3D), but I loved the ones in Metroid Prime 1&2 (2D). Though I'd love for you to disprove that 3D menus are more efficient and usable than a 2D one.
     
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    I only said it "looks cool", I never said that 3d interface's were more usable and powerful than 2d ones... this "out-of-nowhere" flaming it's part of what I was talking about. If everyone differs from you then "there has to be something wrong with them".

    In fact, "why 3d interfaces???", I ask.. why not?
     
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    Yea, out of nowhere :rolleyes:
    If you're going to act like that and generalise then expect my kind of response.

    For the reasons already stated why 3D interfaces don't work :D repeat loop.
     

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