iPad mini Think the mini has a low PPI? Calculate your Desktop here.

Discussion in 'iPad' started by expy, Nov 3, 2012.

  1. macrumors newbie

    Aug 6, 2012
    While contemplating the purchase of a iPad mini the only thing that has been holding me back was the non retina display (163 ppi). I have a iPhone 5 (326 ppi) and iPad 3 (264 ppi) so I am spoiled with their great displays. My desktop computer has two Dell 24" 1080p monitors which I have always thought looked nice but guess what, by going to www.thirdculture.com/joel/shumi/computer/hardware/ppicalc.html I found out they were only 91 ppi. I now have renewed interest in the mini. Not saying I'm out the door to buy a mini but I now think its worth my time to go have a look.
  2. macrumors 65816


    Dec 11, 2009
  3. macrumors 6502


    Sep 21, 2007
    Gold Coast, Australia
    Might also want to consider the viewing distance and the size of the font you'll be frequently viewing as well...
  4. macrumors 604


    Mar 29, 2011
    Please remember this if any of the competition releases non "Retina" displays.

    I seem to recall many people criticizing the competition whenever a non Retina display device was released. Where were all these excuses to justify the purchase? I keep reading "you can't see the pixels if you don't look at the iPad Mini up close." Why doesn't' this logic apply and excuse other non-retina displays?

    If you want the iPad Mini, no one is stopping you. It's just odd you have to go through such lengths to justify the purchase. Makes you think...
  5. macrumors 68000


    Feb 16, 2009
    Steve Jobs told me I needed retina on my iPhone 4. If he said it, I believe it.

    You will be singing praises when the iPad mini 2 with RD comes out. Trust me.

  6. Guest

    Jul 29, 2007
  7. thread starter macrumors newbie

    Aug 6, 2012
    I did not intend for this thread to be another mini screen resolution debate. I just found it interesting that the typical HD Desktop monitor has such a low ppi and most find them quite acceptable.

    I sit pretty close to my desktop screen but definitely not closer than I would hold the mini so point well made.
  8. macrumors 6502

    Jun 13, 2008
    It does. You keep bringing this up in unrelated threads as some perceived slight by an unidentified group of people.
    It makes you think about what the investment is for people who think the purchase needs to be justified in the first place, going to such lengths to point out a known quantity everywhere they can, as though everyone else must be missing something. It shouldn't be hard to accept that one number isn't everything.
    No doubt, as I will on that glorious day in the future when I can get a 250ppi display in a 27-32" size. It's not going to prevent me from enjoying anything in the mean time, though.
  9. macrumors 6502a

    May 5, 2005
    Montreal, Quebec
    Yes, the greater distance is exactly why the lower PPI of laptops is less of an issue than on tablets.

    I've always had a bad habit of reading too close, be it paper or screens. No coincidence then that I'm one of those especially disappointed at the lack of retina. I'm wondering now if the Mini would actually help break me of that. :p
  10. macrumors 65816


    Nov 20, 2008
    New York
    It still looks terrible in comparison to every other screen I own during real world use.
  11. macrumors member

    Jun 28, 2012
  12. Guest

    Jul 29, 2007
    iPad Mini screen looks much better than my Acer iconia 7" tablet I bought last year. The Acer screen isn't even IPS and has very poor viewing angle.

    iPad Mini screen looks much better than my PC laptop screens.
    iPad Mini screen looks better than my MacBook Pro screen.

    Most of my screens aren't IPS. I have 3 monitors that are IPS. The other 7 monitors I have aren't.
  13. macrumors 6502a

    Jan 27, 2009
    17 inch Macbook Pro 136 ppi

    Man I want a retina 17 ....

    Still buying an iPad mini for my mom though she needs it for work since her laptop is killin her (weight/back problems) and what she does can be done from an ipad mini

    Honestly my 14 year old brother has an iPad 1 so I dont see why everyone is going nuts over the resolution density since the iPad 1 isnt bad and the Mini is better
  14. macrumors 68030


    Mar 25, 2011
    Even your 23" cinema display?whats the pip on that display?
    The thunderbolt display has a ppi of 109 vs the mini's 163
  15. macrumors 601


    Jul 14, 2010
    Phila, PA
  16. thread starter macrumors newbie

    Aug 6, 2012
  17. macrumors 6502a

    Jan 27, 2009
    I have a hard time believing that the Mini will look any worse than most of the God Awful PC screens I have seen. Personally I use a mac exclusively but for business use we buy PCs because they are cost effective and I cant find a decent display with decent pixel density on any of the laptops we end up buying. The mini has to look better than that so for all intents and purposes it should be a good enough display. Should it have been retina probably? sure but does not being retina kill it? the biggest problem should be their refusal to drop the margin between sizes 16 - 32 - 64 to being 50 dollar increments at once
  18. macrumors 6502

    Dec 14, 2010
    My 27" monitor I'm using right now only has 81.59 PPI and my new 55" TV has 40.05 PPI :mad:
  19. thread starter macrumors newbie

    Aug 6, 2012
    I knew better than to calculate my Big Screen TV! Ignorance is bliss (in this case). :D Of course I don't tend to sit very close to the tube to notice the low ppi.
  20. Guest

    Jul 29, 2007
    I can actually see pixels on my 50" TV sitting 10 feet away.

    Then again, it's only 720p.
  21. macrumors 68000


    Feb 16, 2009

    How close is your face to your computer screen vs. how close is your face to your tablet when being held in your hands. The answer to the conundrum lies there.
  22. Guest

    Jul 29, 2007
    Desktop monitor is about arms length.

    Tablet about 6" to 8" closer.

    Laptop monitor about the same distance as my iPad.
    Laptop monitor has worst ppi.
  23. macrumors 6502

    Jun 13, 2008
    Precisely. To nip this whole thing in the bud, here are the distance figures for 20/20 vision:

    40ppi: 87"
    90ppi: 38"
    100ppi: 34"
    110ppi: 31"
    132ppi: 26"
    163ppi: 21"
    220ppi: 16"
    264ppi: 13"
    300ppi: 12"
    326ppi: 10"
  24. Guest

    Jul 29, 2007
    You mean I should sit 34" from my HP laptop with its 100ppi?
    You mean I should sit 38" from my HP IPS 24" 1080p monitor with its 92 ppi?

    Damn. I wish I have longer arms.
  25. thread starter macrumors newbie

    Aug 6, 2012
    Here ya go.........;)


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