This whole windows/mac thing confuses me

Discussion in 'Mac Pro' started by dlisle20, Feb 7, 2006.

  1. dlisle20 macrumors member

    Jan 2, 2005
    I'm getting a new Mac in 2007, will i be able to go into the bios, boot from the windows CD, install it and boot from it instead of OSX?
  2. dwd3885 macrumors 68020

    Dec 10, 2004
    In '07? Dude, that is so far away from now who knows
  3. supergod macrumors 6502

    Jul 14, 2004
    By then there will definitely be a way to run windows on a mac. But why would you want to? Hopefully the next version of the OS will be much faster and there will be no reason to want to use windows.
  4. jsw Moderator emeritus


    Mar 16, 2004
    Andover, MA
    No. There is no BIOS in the Intel Macs.
  5. Dark macrumors regular

    Aug 22, 2005
    New Jersey
    Why in the world would you want to do something like that. I mean I can see like having windows for some programs, but to boot right from Windows:eek:.
    Stick with Dell:D
  6. alexstein macrumors 6502a


    Aug 23, 2004

    What he says. Why in the world would you spend all that money for a nice looking and smooth operating machine if you are just going to ruin it with windows at least try os x before you put windows on your mac.
  7. Jason Bourne macrumors member

    Dec 9, 2005
    He's probably thinking dual-boot which could make sense for a lot of mac users who want to run some windows apps without buying a whole new computer just for that.

    I would find that somewhat useful.

    And to answer the OP's question: no-one knows, but people will certainly try. It seems hard to imagine that no-one will be able to figure out a way to do it, but I certainly have no idea how hard it would be.
  8. macgeek2005 macrumors 65816

    Jan 31, 2006
    Would running windows on a mac, mean playing Half Life? Cause then it wouldn't be running all slow, like the windows emulator programs do.
  9. MacAficionado macrumors 6502

    Oct 5, 2002
    An awesome place
    No, the original poster said he would like to run windows instead of Mac OS X, no mention of dual booting.

    All these people that want to get Macs to install windows are missing the point. I say he should just buy an Alienware. They are so cool looking!!!:eek:
  10. alexstein macrumors 6502a


    Aug 23, 2004

    Not if you could natively boot into windows. No emulator required that is. But again why would you. Dual Booting I can understand, for once in awhile when you really have to use that windows app.
  11. HiRez macrumors 603


    Jan 6, 2004
    Western US
    If you read carefully, I think the way (s)he phrased it could, in fact, mean (s)he wants to dual-boot (as you'd be running one OS instead of another at any given time).
  12. ezekielrage_99 macrumors 68040


    Oct 12, 2005
    Again the magical question comes to mind "what's the point of buying an Apple if you're just going to install Windows on it?"

    Doesn't buying a new Mac for Windows defeat the purpose of buying a Mac in the first place?

    After all if you really need Windows so badly for solitare, etc :rolleyes: why don't you try WINE X11 or a Windows emulator when it's released?
  13. dmetzcher macrumors regular

    Nov 26, 2005
    It's faster right now. The only reason I even use my Windows machine any more is to work with one Web-based app that is not available on Mac.
  14. dmetzcher macrumors regular

    Nov 26, 2005
    You might want the look, feel, and better design of the Apple hardware.
    No. Well, yes, in my (and your) opinion, but, to each his or her own.
    Well, you're just bashing Windows here. :)

    Someone else suggested Alienware for users who might want to run a Mac with Windows on it, instead of the Mac OS (not in addition to it). I disagree with this. For some people, they want Windows, but they love the look and feel of the Mac hardware. So, for them, a Mac running Windows does what they want. Why not suggest that, as soon as they can install Windows on a Mac, they should go ahead and buy one and do it?

    It sounds like a great many Apple users want to steer Windows users away from Apple hardware. I promise you that Apple doesn't want to do that. If they became like Alienware, and started selling a good number of Macs to Windows users, what would be so wrong with that? It certainly wouldn't hurt their bottom line, and I think that many of the Windows users who switch to Mac hardware would eventually make the switch to the Mac OS.

    I say go for it. Get a Mac and install Windows on it, if that's what you want to do. Just wait until you can do it. If you want my opinion, the Mac OS is a better operating system, and you might just like it, so install Windows as a dual boot option, so you can use both. It won't cost you anything but a few gigs of hard disk space, and space is cheap nowadays.
  15. ezekielrage_99 macrumors 68040


    Oct 12, 2005
    What I am getting at is that it seems rather pointless buying an Intel iMac for the only reason to put Windows on it. An Apple computer isn't just a piece of hardware or software but the entire package of a quality build of components coupled with a great operating system.

    It just seems as though there are plently of Windows people making the switch to Apple because they are running Intel, and it also seems that the only reason they are considering an Intel iMac because it looks cool rather than it has exactly what they want.

    From a purely Systems Developer POV most clients I have had miss the point when they are looking into getting a new system, they pick a system for silly reasons (looks, always comes to mind) not for the reasons that will give the client the best results. And yes it is very hard to change a clients mind when they have their heart set only a particular product.

    I wasn't bashing Windows I was just making a silly comment about what most Windows users end up doing in there spare time (guilty).
    For the record I only use window for three things: 3D Studio MAX, Visual Basic and Solitare.
  16. Anonymous Freak macrumors 601

    Anonymous Freak

    Dec 12, 2002

    Intel Macs don't use the BIOS, they use a newer equivalent called 'EFI'. With EFI systems, the computer manufacturer can choose to install a component called "BIOS Compatibility Module" that makes the EFI system pretend it has an old-fashioned BIOS to OSes that need it. Apple didn't include this component.

    XP needs BIOS. This means that Windows XP cannot run on an Intel Mac. (Someone, including Microsoft, may release an updated version of XP that does, but for now, it doesn't. Also, XP 64-bit works on EFI machines, but the current Intel Macs are only 32-bit, and can't boot XP 64-bit.)

    Windows Vista, the next major version, WILL support EFI computers without a BIOS Compatibility Module.

    By 2007, we should see 64-bit Intel Macs, and Windows Vista. Between the two of those, you should be able to install Windows on a Mac.

    So, yes. In 2007, you should be able to buy a new Mac, and install Windows on it.*

    *This posting contains forward-looking statements that are based on the poster's expectations, estimates, projections and assumptions. These statements are not guarantees of future performance and involve certain risks and uncertainties, which are difficult to predict. Therefore, actual future results and trends may differ materially from what is forecast in forward-looking statements due to a variety of factors.
  17. generik macrumors 601


    Aug 5, 2005
    Nope, stay tune to developments at :)
  18. Dr. J macrumors member

    Jan 9, 2006
    I really hope that you will be able to dual boot next year. Some people may want to do this because they love Osx, but the need to run windows programs once in a while. I know that I really need the Mac to do this, so I can use one in Grad school. Other wise I am going to have to buy a new windows machine. Their are those of us that dual booting would really help. I know as a grad student, I will not be able to afford two computers.
  19. dmetzcher macrumors regular

    Nov 26, 2005

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