Tiger and Excess beachballs

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  1. Stella macrumors 604

    Stella

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    #1
    I've noticed that the spinning beach ball appears far more often in Tiger than Panther, particularly when Java apps are running ( which is very unfortunate ).

    If 512MB isn't enough practical memory then Apple really needs to optimize Tiger a little more... ( yes, DIMMs are cheap.. but SODIMS are still quite expensive)

    Anyone else have this experience, excess spinning beach balls?

    PB 15" 1.67 - 512MB.
     
  2. Muskie macrumors 6502

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    I do, often times when I start up TextEdit I get a beachball for like 5 seconds. Which is quite surprising considering is just TextEdit. I have seen it a few other times, similar circumstances, just starting a simple app. Definitely more frequent.
     
  3. panphage macrumors 6502

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    I've been getting tons of freezups in firefox. I stopped using safari because it froze up constantly. Maybe Apple wants me to switch back?
     
  4. asif786 macrumors 65816

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    for me, i find safari is the app that causes me the most beachballs.

    im running a 1.8ghz imac g5 wih 512 ram. everytime safari freezes up i get so worried it's gonna force quit (its annoying when you have like 10 tabs open).

    firefox must be a pain to use, seeing as it takes up more ram than safari..
     
  5. mkrishnan Moderator emeritus

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    Have you all tried the standard solutions -- repair permissions, re-updating of prebindings, reboot, rinse and repeat? ;) I have a 640MB iBook G4, and while it isn't without beachballing :rolleyes: it isn't really worse in Tiger than Panther.
     
  6. asif786 macrumors 65816

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    i agree, it isnt as bad or worse than tiger. in fact, it's a hell of a lot better.

    seems it's just a few apps that are lagging behind!
     
  7. DavidLeblond macrumors 68020

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    I can't even get QT7 to work... I hit play, and its all beach balls from there.
     
  8. satty macrumors 6502

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    slow safari

    I run 10.4 for testing on a Powerbook G4 400 with 256 MB. Safari can be slow and after some time it is nearly unuseable. I think emptying the cache helps to get back to speed (definitely in my case).
     
  9. iBunny macrumors 65816

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    How do you reupdate prebindinigs? i never heard of such a thing
     
  10. katie ta achoo macrumors G3

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    I've noticed that with Tiger and iLife 05, I've been getting crazy amounts of beach balls in iPhoto, and it's actually crashed a few times!
    Is anyone else having this problem, or is just my iPhoto being buggy?
     
  11. nospleen macrumors 68000

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    Curious too?
     
  12. mkrishnan Moderator emeritus

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    At the terminal prompt, type:

    sudo update_prebinding -root / -force

    With no other applications running. Reboot right after.

    Pre-bindings are associations between library files and program files, as I understand them. They allow external APIs to be made more quickly. This is what is done when software update tells you that it is "optimizing system performance," but in cases of unusual slow performance, it's always a good thing to put on the list of stuff to try, and it is not harmful.
     
  13. crazytom macrumors 6502a

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    I got some beachballs today...ones that completely locked up the system. What was I trying to do? Eject a CD from the internal drive. Locked everything up twice until I had to physically force eject the CD from the drive....Fun, huh? I knew I should've waited to install Tiger until 10.4.1!
     
  14. powerbook911 macrumors 68040

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    I felt I had more beachballs, when I first installed Tiger. Things seem better now. :confused:
     
  15. sorryiwasdreami macrumors 6502a

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    I'm getting beachballs in Safari anytime quicktime is involved.
     
  16. DeSnousa macrumors 68000

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    Safari gets slow on occasions when the app is grabbing rss feeds in the background.
     
  17. tangerineyum macrumors 6502

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    Interesting read, im running tiger on the ibook in my sig and the only time i had a beach ball was opening a large photoshop file. iPhoto safari and the other problem apps work fine for me. safari is especially fast now when opening. but to be fair ive had maybe 4 open tabs at once and only have about 1200 or so photos in iphoto 4.
     
  18. QFace macrumors member

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    Far Less Stable

    Tiger has been far less stable for me...
    My powerbook never froze under panther... it's frozen TWICE tonight, and Apple Option Esc wouldn't work. I had to force shut down the computer. Tiger just does not work well with Airtunes... iTunes takes forever to connect to my speakers. Switching songs froze up my entire system. My system also froze up when I was switching from iTunes to the finder. Dashboard has also significantly slowed down. I've very disappointed, and confused. I initially had no problems with stability when I first installed Tiger, but now problems are starting to arise.
    Worst of all, my computer froze up when my friends and I were having a Spice Girls dance party (don’t judge, I know you’re all jealous). I was very sad to here the comment, “My windows XP machine has never frozen” from my friend. So much for convincing them OS X is more stable! Fortunately, my iPod kept the good times rolling, but with my laptop crashing, I definitely died a little inside.
     
  19. Antares_x macrumors newbie

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    In my case... everything is working fine except for a very anoying thing... i'm having video problems... i have a 1.8Ghz iMac G5 with 512Mb in ram.. and the first time i made an upgrade and it was horrible the startup screen seemed like a tv with bad reception... so i decide to go for a complete instalation and archiving old system files... and it got better... but it hangs when i use any video demanding aplication like starry night pro 5 heck even iDVD.. las thing i tried was nanosaur and also had video problems... and when it hangs it forces me to restart and the report says something like this:
    Binary Images Description:
    0x1000 - 0x311fff com.apple.iDVD 5.0.1 (626) /Applications/iDVD.app/Contents/MacOS/iDVD
    0x775000 - 0x780fff com.apple.iokit.SCSITaskLib 1.4.0 /System/Library/Extensions/IOSCSIArchitectureModelFamily.kext/Contents/PlugIns/SCSITaskUserClient.kext/Contents/PlugIns/SCSITaskLib.plugin/Contents/MacOS/SCSITaskLib
    0x4597000 - 0x4695fff GLEngine /System/Library/Frameworks/OpenGL.framework/Resources/GLEngine.bundle/GLEngine
    0x46c3000 - 0x47c7fff com.apple.GeForceFXGLDriver 1.4.0 (4.0.0) /System/Library/Extensions/GeForceFXGLDriver.bundle/Contents/MacOS/GeForceFXGLDriver
    0x47e3000 - 0x47fcfff GLDriver /System/Library/Frameworks/OpenGL.framework/Versions/A/Resources/GLDriver.bundle/GLDriver
    0x4802000 - 0x4822fff GLRendererFloat /System/Library/Frameworks/OpenGL.framework/Versions/A/Resources/GLRendererFloat.bundle/GLRendererFloat
    0x4830000 - 0x4847fff com.apple.oxygene.datadefcontroller 2.0.0 (487) /Applications/iDVD.app/Contents/PlugIns/DataDefController.oxygene/Contents/MacOS/DataDefController

    it says a lot more but for you to have an idea... any one having this kind of problem???
     
  20. rdowns Suspended

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    I solved my iPhoto beach ball and speed problems by emptying its trash (under file menu). I never knew deleted photos went to its own trash and require deletion via iPhoto. I deleted 840 photos from the trash and it flies again.
     
  21. rdowns Suspended

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    Rumor has it that 10.4.1 has been seeded to developers.
     
  22. Applespider macrumors G4

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    Nor did I. iPhoto for me only got slow when I'd been working steadily through a few hundred images in a session. But the size of the iPhoto library was concerning me. It seemed way too big for just having 'originals' handy. Then I discovered 5500 images in the iPhoto trash... :eek:

    iPhoto is much faster now!

    On the Safari beachball front, try changing the Autofill preferences. Keep your details and username/passwords and turn off/empty Other Forms. Before I increased my RAM, this helped a lot for me.
     
  23. mkrishnan Moderator emeritus

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    LOL, I just very recently became aware of iPhoto's trash too! :eek: In the past couple days of playing with my Digital Rebel, I accumulated more than 100 new trash photos, in addition to all the old ones. I found out about the trash quite accidentally by hitting the wrong keyboard shortcut, trying to find the one that launches the external editor. :rolleyes: Of course, in hindsight, not only is the trash bin right there below my albums, but it has the number of photos in it, in parantheses, next to it.
     
  24. katie ta achoo macrumors G3

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    I just noticed that it was there about an hour after I posted. It really made it faster, back to the speeds I know and love.
    Haha, can you tell I'm new to iLife '05?
     
  25. wheezy macrumors 65816

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    You won a powerbook at the premiere? Dang...and I thought winning an iPod Shuffle today from work was cool....

    So...that quote didn't quote your sig...but that's what I was looking to quote.
     

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