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Discussion in 'Politics, Religion, Social Issues' started by zimv20, Apr 5, 2005.
should be, but we'll see if anyone really cares...
Anybody remember Jim Wright?
Yeah, but he was a Democrat. Only Democrats seem to get in trouble nowadays.
Still, I welcome anything that can get DeLay out of there. The man is getting more arrogant by the day.
DeLay's been in hot water so long it'll be years 'til his hands stop pruning.
This is what our democracy has been turned into.
The irony is, Wright was hounded from office for very similar ethical lapses. IIRC, he stood accused of taking money for travel from people with an interest in legislation, laundering campaign funds through a book deal, and hiring a relative to do little or no real work. After the Wright affair, the House (then controlled by the Democrats) strengthened their ethics rules. With the accusations against DeLay, the House (now controlled by Republicans) has weakened their ethics rules. All of which brings to mind geese and ganders.
yet another scandal story has broken...
this article also has a nice little summing up of other trips under scrutiny:
Oh, stop persecuting the poor man!
...and start prosecuting!
I'd actually like to see DeLay hang in there for a while longer. Up until closer to the '06 elections at least if he doesn't self destruct before then. Then he can go back to killing bugs. In jail.
Even the GOP establishment is distancing themselves from this guy. He skipped out on a religious hatefest this week after drawing all this fire because he's scared of his new high-profile image. Tom DeLay is badly out of step with America, and it's high time America saw how the GOP's muscle in the HoR behaves.
If he hangs in there though, the '06 election can become a referendum on DeLay and the GOP's ethics, fiscal, and foreign policy problems. DeLay will be the Dems whipping boy, and the only people who'll really back the guy are the American Taliban crowd.
More thoughts about DeLay's ethics, or lack thereof:
But you know, it's the LA Times...
With all these lapses in ethics (as well as his Congressional voting history) I'm remain puzzled why they still stand by him and used him as their bullhorn in the Schiavo case.
Do the Republicans really think that they are that much like Teflon?
Apparently they don't.
I'm not sure whether I should be madder at the Neocons for thinking they can get away with it, the Liberals for not actually doing anything about it, or the people who don't care enough so that they actually do get away with it.
I wonder if they know that corrupt politicians are the first to be thrown into the fire during the Apocalypse. You'd think they'd at least read those Bibles they've been a thumpin'. Ah well, maybe he'll do something really dumb and people will actually care.
Tom Delay really needs to be brought to justice. Beyond that, I would really like to see the fall of the corporate media. Liberal groups have been disastrously unorganized for decades now, perhaps longer considering how long the media has supported the interests of business over those of people.
On a positive note, at least there is an effort being made now to launch an alternative media.
The media has not always been completely slanted, fair would not be the best word to use but over the past 25-30 years it has not been the most objective outlet. With the advent of Fox, there is competition to see who can be the most conservative outlet.
An objective media would never have started a feeding frenzy over the Schaivo matter when the majority leader is acting in such a detesable manner. Especially when there was nothing wrong being done (legally) in the Schaivo case and Delay is treating ethics standards with outright contempt.
DeLay deserves the same fate as Jim Wright (and without delay). For the time being, he's been saved by the pope -- but I think this story has legs enough to outlast the papal saturation coverage.
Especially considering what a hypocrite he is.
Looks like Santorum is trying to set up a mock hearing for Delay. A public Q&A display that will probably lack both questions and answers.
Rumor is that DeLay is calling in the favors he's owed in an effort to save his skin. I'm sure Santorum is just one of the people who 'owe him one'.
Oh and there's also the implicit threat DeLay issued regarding anyone not helping him not getting any help from him or the GOP in the future.
DeLay has the Wright stuff. Whenever a politician calls in all his chips simultaneously, he's desperate, which means he's finished. I'd put money on it.
Or, as we'd say over here: he's had his chips...
how low will he go?
What, he hasn't gone low enough already?
It's going to get worse before it gets better. Problem is (for them at least) I think that more people are finally catching on. How did Jon Stewart put it, "how dare Liberals hold them accountable for their unethical behavior". Something like that.
It would make for great satire if it weren't true, but in essence, this is the case being made by Republicans. They watered down the house ethics rules to protect DeLay, rules by which the Democrats are now refusing to play. But that's not stopping the Republicans from claiming that it's the Democrats who are "playing politics" with this issue.