Too good to be true?

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  1. macrumors regular

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    #1
    I am ever suspicious of the 'too good' deals, and this falls under that :

    OEM Software

    what do you all think? The site seems better made than the average piracy sites, and the FAQ is almost respectable, and they even 'guarantee' the software. But I could not find any contact details for them, neither phone nor address or even email....

    Maybe I could check with any of the manufacturers listed like Adobe? Anybody know who/where?
     
  2. macrumors 68000

    russed

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    #2
    i get this feeling that there is something a bit odd about that site and the prices are pretty damn low!
     
  3. macrumors 6502

    netytan

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    #3
    Thats insain! How in hell can any business aford to sell such amazing software at a price you could bearly do your shopping with :S. Has anyone ordered anything from these guys before? If so, did they actually deliver? If they did i may place an order right now ;).

    Mark.
     
  4. macrumors 6502

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    #4
    Here is their info if anyone is wondering:

    whois.melbourneit.com]
    Domain Name: STARSOFTPACK.BIZ
    Domain ID: D7084205-BIZ
    Sponsoring Registrar: DIRECT INFORMATION PVT. LTD., (D.B.A. DIRECTI.COM)
    Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited
    Registrant ID: DI_431654
    Registrant Name: Gregor Ya
    Registrant Organization: Gregory Mushrooms
    Registrant Address1: 7734 lane Hongqiao
    Registrant City: Shanghai
    Registrant Postal Code: 200336
    Registrant Country: China
    Registrant Country Code: CN
    Registrant Phone Number: +86.285223815
    Registrant Email: rapidma@doramail.com
    Administrative Contact ID: DI_431654
    Administrative Contact Name: Gregor Ya
    Administrative Contact Organization: Gregory Mushrooms
    Administrative Contact Address1: 7734 lane Hongqiao
    Administrative Contact City: Shanghai
    Administrative Contact Postal Code: 200336
    Administrative Contact Country: China
    Administrative Contact Country Code: CN
    Administrative Contact Phone Number: +86.285223815
    Administrative Contact Email: rapidma@doramail.com
    Billing Contact ID: DI_431654
    Billing Contact Name: Gregor Ya
    Billing Contact Organization: Gregory Mushrooms
    Billing Contact Address1: 7734 lane Hongqiao
    Billing Contact City: Shanghai
    Billing Contact Postal Code: 200336
    Billing Contact Country: China
    Billing Contact Country Code: CN
    Billing Contact Phone Number: +86.285223815
    Billing Contact Email: rapidma@doramail.com
    Technical Contact ID: DI_431654
    Technical Contact Name: Gregor Ya
    Technical Contact Organization: Gregory Mushrooms
    Technical Contact Address1: 7734 lane Hongqiao
    Technical Contact City: Shanghai
    Technical Contact Postal Code: 200336
    Technical Contact Country: China
    Technical Contact Country Code: CN
    Technical Contact Phone Number: +86.285223815
    Technical Contact Email: rapidma@doramail.com
    Name Server: NS1.STARSOFTPACK.BIZ
    Name Server: NS2.STARSOFTPACK.BIZ
    Created by Registrar: DIRECT INFORMATION PVT. LTD., (D.B.A. DIRECTI.COM)
    Last Updated by Registrar: DIRECT INFORMATION PVT. LTD., (D.B.A. DIRECTI.COM)
    Domain Registration Date: Thu Jun 03 10:13:54 GMT 2004
    Domain Expiration Date: Thu Jun 02 23:59:59 GMT 2005
    Domain Last Updated Date: Thu Jun 03 10:15:21 GMT 2004


    See bolding...

    Gregory Mushrooms? kind of odd.
     
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    russed

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    they even give you more money off if you spend over $300! how come in the FAQ it says everything ships from Europe but the site is registered to some guy in shanghai and the prices are all on $'s?
     
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    netytan

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    #6
    Who and where the domain is registered too isnt really an issue since if this guy made arangments with a hosting company to register it the site wouldn't be in his name anyway :). Now the $ thing can also be explained if you assume that the guy is going for consistancy - most websites today using $. Though if you ask me, saddly it probably is too good to be true :(

    Mark.
     
  7. macrumors member

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    #7
    Unfortunately, these are pirated software.

    It is true that there are many pirated software for sale outside the US for really cheap (much cheaper than what this site is advertizing for). Many cost a little more than the medium it is on (a blank CD). Windows XP Pro could be had for a few US dollars, for example. Some websites even post the ISO images of the retail CDs of the software for download if one knows how to get to these URLs. Then the product key is downloaded from a different place, again, if one knows how.
     
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    netytan

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    #8
    Theres a shame, i'm trying to keep my pirated software purly on windows so my mac is nice and clean ;). Though i have to say that i like the look of Photoshop CS for that price, especially since i'm gonna end up paying for the full CS suite later in the year :).

    Mark.
     
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    Mitthrawnuruodo

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    #9
    Generally, when something seems to good to be true, it's because that's just what it is... ;)
     
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    jxyama

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    #10
    pretty much any thing with .biz should be considered suspect, unless proven otherwise...
     
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    irmongoose

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    #11
    Well that URL is just a mask, and the real URL is www.compforhome.com.
    I did a Google search on compforhome and it seems it has been blacklisted for spam. Link

    If moral/legal issues are not a problem for you, why don't you just go and download whatever you want instead of buying pirated software? Putting money into the deal just makes it worse. And who knows, what if they don't deliver?



    irmongoose
     
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    flyfish29

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    #12
    this is sketchy as well:
    The web site says this:
    Yes, that's right: guaranteed software.

    All our products are covered by an unconditional 60-day money-back guarantee.
    If for any reason you are not satisfied with your product in the first 60 days after purchase, simply contact our customer service team and we'll make it right, or we will arrange for a return and full refund, less shipping and handling (if applicable).

    I am sorry, but they can't afford to do it...probably even pirated stuff. I would guess you would never see a thing! Pirated or not, but maybe it is the prepackaged pirated stuff that looks similar to the real stuff.

    don't do it...if it seems too good to be tru it is!

    Johnny
     
  13. macrumors 6502a

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    #13
    why not email them and see if they respond?

    or call their number (if you want to spend a lot of money on long distance)

    even better, call the BBB
     
  14. thread starter macrumors regular

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    #14
    no email id.

    no phone numbers.

    better off forgetting about them :(
     
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    Chip NoVaMac

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    #15
    Even more strange:

    DIRECTI.COM
    Back-order this name

    Make an Offer for this name

    Registration Service Provided By: DIRECTI
    Contact: sales@directi.com
    Website: http://www.directi.com

    Domain Name: DIRECTI.COM

    Registrant:
    Direct Information Pvt Ltd
    Domain Manager (domain.manager@directi.com)
    330, Link Way Estate
    Link Road
    Malad (W)
    Mumbai
    Maharashtra,400064
    IN
    Tel. +91.2256797500

    Creation Date: 11-Aug-1997
    Expiration Date: 25-Sep-2005

    Domain servers in listed order:
    ns.directihosting.com
    ns2.directihosting.com


    Administrative Contact:
    Direct Information Pvt Ltd
    Domain Manager (domain.manager@directi.com)
    330, Link Way Estate
    Link Road
    Malad (W)
    Mumbai
    Maharashtra,400064
    IN
    Tel. +91.2256797500

    Technical Contact:
    Direct Information Pvt Ltd
    Domain Manager (domain.manager@directi.com)
    330, Link Way Estate
    Link Road
    Malad (W)
    Mumbai
    Maharashtra,400064
    IN
    Tel. +91.2256797500

    Billing Contact:
    Direct Information Pvt Ltd
    Domain Manager (domain.manager@directi.com)
    330, Link Way Estate
    Link Road
    Malad (W)
    Mumbai
    Maharashtra,400064
    IN
    Tel. +91.2256797500

    Status:ACTIVE


    And...

    compforhome.com
    Back-order this name

    Make an Offer for this name

    Registration Service Provided By: NAME15.COM
    Contact: support@ssl4all.com
    Website: http://name15.com

    Domain Name: COMPFORHOME.COM

    Registrant:
    JAMRED SOFT LLC.
    James Reding (texwhit@hotmail.com)
    172 NORTH CEDAR
    SEYMOUR
    TX,76380
    US
    Tel. +1.9408882398

    Creation Date: 21-May-2004
    Expiration Date: 21-May-2005

    Domain servers in listed order:
    ns1.3070.biz
    ns2.3070.biz
    ns3.3070.biz


    Administrative Contact:
    JAMRED SOFT LLC.
    James Reding (texwhit@hotmail.com)
    172 NORTH CEDAR
    SEYMOUR
    TX,76380
    US
    Tel. +1.9408882398

    Technical Contact:
    JAMRED SOFT LLC.
    James Reding (texwhit@hotmail.com)
    172 NORTH CEDAR
    SEYMOUR
    TX,76380
    US
    Tel. +1.9408882398

    Billing Contact:
    JAMRED SOFT LLC.
    James Reding (texwhit@hotmail.com)
    172 NORTH CEDAR
    SEYMOUR
    TX,76380
    US
    Tel. +1.9408882398

    Status:ACTIVE
     
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    flyfish29

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    #16
    Come on, even if there was an email or phone number, I can put my own number and email on a fake site...if you really want proof a site is legit, contact one of the software manufacturers and ask them if they are an outlet to sell the stuff. The only way a manufacturer isn't going to list a site/location as a legit seller would be if they get it similar to how Sam's club or other places get their stuff- closeouts, old versions, going out of business sales, etc. but that would not usually be on the most recent versions.

    Johnny
     
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    titaniumducky

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    #17
    The software is pirated and/or the company is phony.

    Either way this is bad. Why would you pay for something pirated? That's worse than downloading pirated software...

    If it's phony, you lose your money.

    Don't do it.
     
  18. macrumors member

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    #18
    their policy:
    Lolz :D
     
  19. Moderator emeritus

    edesignuk

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    #19
    Code:
    Domain Name:                                 STARSOFTPACK.BIZ
    Domain ID:                                   D7084205-BIZ
    Sponsoring Registrar:                        DIRECT INFORMATION PVT. LTD., (D.B.A. DIRECTI.COM)
    Domain Status:                               clientTransferProhibited
    Registrant ID:                               DI_431654
    Registrant Name:                             Gregor Ya
    Registrant Organization:                     Gregory Mushrooms
    Registrant Address1:                         7734 lane Hongqiao
    Registrant City:                             Shanghai
    Registrant Postal Code:                      200336
    Registrant Country:                          China
    Registrant Country Code:                     CN
    Registrant Phone Number:                     +86.285223815
    Registrant Email:                            [email]rapidma@doramail.com[/email]
    Administrative Contact ID:                   DI_431654
    Administrative Contact Name:                 Gregor Ya
    Administrative Contact Organization:         Gregory Mushrooms
    Administrative Contact Address1:             7734 lane Hongqiao
    Administrative Contact City:                 Shanghai
    Administrative Contact Postal Code:          200336
    Administrative Contact Country:              China
    Administrative Contact Country Code:         CN
    Administrative Contact Phone Number:         +86.285223815
    Administrative Contact Email:                [email]rapidma@doramail.com[/email]
    Billing Contact ID:                          DI_431654
    Billing Contact Name:                        Gregor Ya
    Billing Contact Organization:                Gregory Mushrooms
    Billing Contact Address1:                    7734 lane Hongqiao
    Billing Contact City:                        Shanghai
    Billing Contact Postal Code:                 200336
    Billing Contact Country:                     China
    Billing Contact Country Code:                CN
    Billing Contact Phone Number:                +86.285223815
    Billing Contact Email:                       [email]rapidma@doramail.com[/email]
    Technical Contact ID:                        DI_431654
    Technical Contact Name:                      Gregor Ya
    Technical Contact Organization:              Gregory Mushrooms
    Technical Contact Address1:                  7734 lane Hongqiao
    Technical Contact City:                      Shanghai
    Technical Contact Postal Code:               200336
    Technical Contact Country:                   China
    Technical Contact Country Code:              CN
    Technical Contact Phone Number:              +86.285223815
    Technical Contact Email:                     [email]rapidma@doramail.com[/email]
    Name Server:                                 NS1.STARSOFTPACK.BIZ
    Name Server:                                 NS2.STARSOFTPACK.BIZ
    Created by Registrar:                        DIRECT INFORMATION PVT. LTD., (D.B.A. DIRECTI.COM)
    Last Updated by Registrar:                   DIRECT INFORMATION PVT. LTD., (D.B.A. DIRECTI.COM)
    Domain Registration Date:                    Thu Jun 03 10:13:54 GMT 2004
    Domain Expiration Date:                      Thu Jun 02 23:59:59 GMT 2005
    Domain Last Updated Date:                    Thu Jun 03 10:15:21 GMT 2004
    Gregory Mushrooms, in Shanghai, China huh? :D
     

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