Too Many Products? [Merged]

Discussion in 'Apple, Inc and Tech Industry' started by cambookpro, Oct 24, 2012.

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    cambookpro

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    Do you think that Apple just seems to be flooding the market with as many products as possible? I understand that keeping the last-gen makes a more affordable version of a product, but there is some places where there is no need.

    iPhone 4: Really has no place. May as well make an 8GB 4S and sell it instead, such is the small difference.

    iPad 2: With the launch of the mini, that replaces it as the affordable iPad. I don't think you need to differentiate more.

    MacBook Pro (without retina): This just makes the notebook line too confusing. If you want a cheaper one, get a MBA. If you want a 'Pro' one, get a MBP with retina.

    iPod touch (4th gen): Really has no place, does it? Who'd buy almost three year old tech now?

    And to a lesser extent:

    iPod classic: Kill this thing or give it a nice new design.

    Mac Pro: As above.

    A much lesser extent:

    iPod nano: Where does it slot in to the whole iOS lineup, even only as a pseudo-iOS product? It offers no advantages over the iPod touch other than size, and is no better than music than a shuffle.

    I really think that all these products do make it more confusing to your average buyer. Do they get the retina iPad? Or a smaller one? Or a bigger one, but with a worse screen? Oh wait, the camera on the smaller one is better too!
    This is almost pre-2000s, where there were just too many products. What do you think?
     
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    GermanyChris

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    I thought it was magical and a revolution, insanely great??

    I don't find the lines confusing at all..

    Rest of it is meh
     
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    rhett7660

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    I find it funny that people will complain if they don't have enough choices, or if they have to many choices.

    It is a no win situation.

    Not being mean or trying to be a prick... just making an observation.
     
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    TSE

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    Apple has slowly come out with a new product every two years or so, and it's fine. Not like the pre-2000s where they came out with 8 different models of different products and came out with new, random products every 6 months to a year.
     
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    I agree. They need to have a massive cut-down and streamlining of products like they did around the turn of the century. At the time Apple's product line was big and confusing, so Steve came up with a 'four box' design, which could still be used today: One pro laptop (rMBP), one consumer laptop (MBA). One pro desktop (iMac), one consumer desktop (Mac Mini). Same for the iDevices: One top of the line iPhone (iPhone 5), one affordable iPhone (4S). One top of the line tablet (iPad 4), one affordable tablet (iPad Mini). Boom, there ya go :)
     
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    Apple: Too many products?

    I was wondering if I was the only one who felt that Apple has way too many products? Historically Apple had a few products, now they just seem all over the place.

    Macbook Air
    Macbook Pro
    Macbook Retina
    Mac Mini
    Imac
    Mac Pro
    iPod Shuffle
    iPod Nano
    iPod Touch
    iPod Classic
    Apple TV
    iPhone (4/4s/5)
    iPad
    iPad Mini

    I am no expert, but I think it would benefit them to trim their lines a bit. Maybe consolidate the Macbook Pros and Airs and offer just the Retinas. Then lose the iPod shuffle, touch, and classic. Lastly get rid of Apple TV. That would leave the line as

    Macbook Pro Retina
    Mac Mini
    Imac
    Mac Pro
    iPod Nano
    iPhone
    iPad Mini
    Ipad

    Keeps all segments, but trims down the line. Which may allow them to more competitively pice their products versus competitors while not cannibalizing their own lines.

    What do you guys think? Do they have too many products or do you appreciate the amount of choice? This was just a thought I had when trying to figure out why they would price the iPad mini at 329.99.
     
  7. cambookpro, Oct 31, 2012
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    cambookpro

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    I wouldn't cut the line back to that extent. The Air is a very, very nice laptop and I couldn't see Apple axing it. The shuffle is also nice for runners.

    I can see getting rid of the touch, but don't see the reasoning behind the :apple:TV? It's a great bit of kit.
     
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    You're looking at it wrong. There are only two things: Mac and iOS.
     
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    Why kill the Mac Pro if not update it? (And it should be updated!)

    It's not like any of the other line items and is a completely differentiated product/market.
     
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    I also think with the retina line, this is a transition and I have a feeling within the next few years all the other lines of the laptops will disappear and be back to the Pro and Air only. They will all be retina.

    I also think we are going to see the iPods slowly taper off also.

    With the iPad and iPhones I think they will keep at least three going all the time to give everyone a choice and different price points.
     
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    ixodes

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    Welcome to Apple circa 2012. Boom there you are.
     
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    Hey hey, don't be too hasty ;) Merging the MBP and MBA is not a good idea, as they are too separate as computers. Five years down the track? Maybe. But certainly not now. And they ain't going to can the touch either, seeing as it's just been updated and it sells very well.
     
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    LostSoul80

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    Nothing wrong in monetizing on older, read cheaper, products, as long as there are customers left ready to buy them. The best practice would be to fade them out slowly.
    Apple has expanded in time, so it's quite natural to see more products in their lines.
     
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    Yeah I think they need to get rid of the iPad 2, and things like that.

    But then again, are they making revenue on the products? If so, keep churning em' out. And I suspect that is the criteria which actually determines what they axe.
     

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