Twenty SUVs Damaged in Texas Attack

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  1. eyelikeart Moderator emeritus

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    I want to laugh really...

    I mean...the principle of the matter sucks...but it's damned justifying to those who are against these things...

    story here
     
  2. mactastic macrumors 68040

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    Thing is, whoever did this will probably go down under some form of domestic terrorism law. And go to jail for a very long time. If it's just kids, they're in real trouble now.
     
  3. Mr. Anderson Moderator emeritus

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    That's just stupid - but if you're in the market for a cheap SUV......;)

    and that Earth Liberation Front - the ELFs? bwahahahaha:rolleyes:

    Oh, I'm dying here.....:D

    D
     
  4. eyelikeart thread starter Moderator emeritus

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    ELF's? :eek:

    I'm laughing...should I call u Fozie Bear now or wait till I have some tomatoes to throw at u? :D
     
  5. Stelliform macrumors 68000

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    I see a booming business in Car lot security systems.... Hmmmm...
     
  6. Mr. Anderson Moderator emeritus

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    www.earthliberationfront.com

    seems to be shut down....

    whois:

    Thurston, Darren (EARTHLIBERATIONFRONT-DOM)
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    PO Box 78061, 2606 Commercial Drive
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    Thurston, Darren (DTT61) darren@TAO.CA
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    Domain servers in listed order:

    DNS.ENVIROWEB.ORG 208.40.195.228
    DNS2.ENVIROWEB.ORG 208.40.195.4

    and this link:

    http://www.furcommission.com/debate/words6.htm

    "Earth Liberation Front, one of the most dangerous terrorist groups in the country"

    wacko's

    :rolleyes:
     
  7. eyelikeart thread starter Moderator emeritus

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  8. Moxiemike macrumors 68020

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    There was another post about a similar attack in West Covina.

    Looks like these kids are fa real.

    http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?threadid=35967&highlight=suvs+and+destroyed

    Interesting stuff. I'd like to sit down and chat with these folks. I definitely agree that SUVs are a massive (pun intended ;) ) problem and there should be legislation against them somehow.

    That said, the dealerships are only being proper capitalists and preying on the general stupidity of americans in general.

    I'd be more down if these kids went into the "classy" suburbs and did the same thing to the families that drive around their one kid in a Suburban or an Escalade because "they need to protect their kids"

    Or better yet, the phonies who tool around in h2's. I'm definitely a fan of that.
     
  9. Mr. Anderson Moderator emeritus

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    So let me get this straight - you're saying that these ELFs should go and vandalize personal property just because.....?
     
  10. Moxiemike macrumors 68020

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    Well, the people who buy these monstrosities are worse than the dealers IMHO. The dealers are selling what they know the public will scoop up like lemmings.

    So if you're gonna do it to the dealers, do it to the idiots who buy these things. ;)

    Sure. Why not. I'm all for the people who sticker SUVs with bumper stickers that say "i'm helping the environment, ask me how?"

    A normal family DOES NOT need one of these things toride back and forth from the café to their suburban McMansion....

    So go get 'em! ;)
     
  11. Mr. Anderson Moderator emeritus

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    I don't think condoning violence in this way is even a remotely intelligent. There needs to be an alternative to this sort of activism. Sure its an issue, but violence is not a solution.

    You're not going to get people to sell their cars by shooting out the windows and slashing tires. And what happens if they get caught doing it? Someone gets hurt.

    Its all so stupid. :rolleyes:
     
  12. Moxiemike macrumors 68020

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    Well, we live in a country that condones violence. So why not play along? Eh?
     
  13. wdlove macrumors P6

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    So when did we become a country that condones violence? We still live in a free country, so they have a right to buy the SUV and not have personal attacks.

    Maybe the car dealerships could have a reverse invisible dog fence!
     
  14. Mr. Anderson Moderator emeritus

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    Yeah, that's a good argument.:rolleyes: Sure things can be hypocritical at times, but allowing violence like that would be just plain stupid.

    Anyone busting up my stuff would have to face justice - no exceptions. Trying to take a 'ends justify the means' approach is pretty much going to lead to anarchy. No one wins then.

    Blah....

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  15. mactastic macrumors 68040

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    Becuase 2 wrongs do not make anything better. Peaceful protest should be the way they make their point. I thoroughly disagreed with the issue of the 10 commandments monument, but those people did it right. No violence, no intimidation, no property destruction. These extremist groups need to realize that they are hurting the cause they wish to help when they act like this. This isn't an issue of SUV's, I totally agree with the principles they support, but the tactics are inexcuseable.
     
  16. Moxiemike macrumors 68020

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    Ummm. Let's see... how about that whole pre-emptive war on iraq from a few months back?

    The one where americans are still getting killed. And so are iraqis.
     
  17. mactastic macrumors 68040

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    Would it be ok with you if the dealers decided violence was ok too and started shooting trespassers?
     
  18. Moxiemike macrumors 68020

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    Sure. It IS the American way, right?
     
  19. mactastic macrumors 68040

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    No, it's not.

    This thread's goin political real fast.
     
  20. Moxiemike macrumors 68020

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    I'm glad y'all picked up on the sarcasm.

    Though i AM all for this:

    http://www.changingtheclimate.com/
     
  21. jelloshotsrule macrumors G3

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    unfortunately, violence IS condoned by the country as a whole.

    that said, i don't support this stuff.

    use the time/money spent on these attacks and educate people about what they're doing when they drive these things. educate them about what our government is doing (nothing really) to support alternative energies and such.

    or tutor someone. or whatever.

    unless it's a flash mob eh? ;)
     
  22. jelloshotsrule macrumors G3

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    did you really just say that? ice cube? or is it ice t?
     
  23. Abstract macrumors Penryn

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    How does this hurt the cause? People are more responsive and attentive to violent actions and protests than to "talking". The 10 Commandments "thing" was highly publicized because it involved a lot of angry people from all surrounding States, and because it involved religion. It got by without the need for violence, but this is a rarity.

    Nobody pays attention to stories that indirectly condemn their lifestyle. If theres a news story about inhumane working conditions and paltry salaries at clothing manufacturers.......just change the channel. Sure, you may be indirectly enslaving the 3rd world, but you don't have to hear it. This is a 1st world attitude. That's why anti-corporate, anti-materialist protests (eg: G8 summit) end up involving spray-paint, destruction of commercial property, and sparse violent outbreaks. If they didn't, it wouldn't get more than a brief mention on the news, either print media or televised media.

    If somebody talked about how bad SUVs are, do you think it would be in the news? No, but if 20 kids scratch up a few cars, we hear about it. I'd say they're helping their cause, as bad as that sounds to you..........and I.
     
  24. mactastic macrumors 68040

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    They are also making it easier for those who disagree with them to dismiss them out of hand because of their tactics. So yes, we hear more about it on the news, but it's not good press. I think actions like this harden people into more extreme positions rather than creating a dialog that will lead to productive compromises.
     
  25. Moxiemike macrumors 68020

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    M.C. Macrumors in da hizzzzzhouseeeeeeeeeee

    yo! yo! yo!

    I gots da post count crown and some crown royal.

    And bizatches on my tip 'cuz i'm postin' 19.5.

    Yoooooo!

    sorry. couldn't resist.

    Jello... you bring out the worst in me. hehe
     

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