U.S. Bars Iraq Contracts for Nations That Opposed War

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  1. zimv20 macrumors 601

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    lnk

    in other news, little Timmy Minter from my 2nd grade, who got mad at me for doing better than him on the spelling test, still has my superball.
     
  2. Dont Hurt Me macrumors 603

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    Good! when those 3 nations cough up 87 billion then i say let them in. It would be just stupid if we go over there to change Iraq after spending 87 billion just to let the communist and socialist get the rewards. Keep a good eye on the french and germans after all they got the world involved in 2 world wars did they not? i hate to say this but i see another one coming in the next 10- 20 years and i think it will come right out of the same dam place.
     
  3. zimv20 thread starter macrumors 601

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    let me ask you this -- for whose alleged good was this war fought?
     
  4. mactastic macrumors 68040

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    <Waving hand wildly> Oh, I know this one! The Iraqi people right? To save them from an oppressive a$$hole of a dictator?
     
  5. toontra macrumors 6502

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    Well don't say it then. What gives you the idea that France and/or Germany would be responsible for starting a world war, apart from the fact they disagree with the foreign policy of your government.
     
  6. Psychic Shopper macrumors member

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    The Pentagon has barred any companies not associated with Dick Channey/ Haliburton from the $16.8 Billion in the Iraqi pork barrell project
     
  7. Dont Hurt Me macrumors 603

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    Look at history of France and Germany, that should be enough.WW1, WW2, where did Saddam get most of of his stuff? from these same clowns. I pray we never are lulled into letting the U.N make all of our choices because when that happens America will be doomed.
     
  8. g5man macrumors newbie

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    Actually they all had contracts with Iraq, the problem was they assumed that some how they would get rid of sanctions and get paid.

    I love Kerry's plan. Let the UN take over Iraq and we will take care of security. In other words you guys get the new contracts while we get shot.
     
  9. IJ Reilly macrumors P6

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    Petulance as foreign policy. Yeah, that makes sense -- so long as you're not being asked to pick up the tab.
     
  10. G5ROCKS macrumors newbie

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    The war was fought to remake the political reality of the Middle East and thus protect the national security of the United States. It's a nice side effect, and not all all coincidental, that an ******* of a dictator was removed in the process. The first stage ended with the fall of Saddam's government. The rest of the process has a long way to go.

    So far as the contracts go, too bad. Right now, the US taxpayer is paying for most of these contracts, and there's no reason to give them to countries that didn't want us to be there in the first place.
     
  11. Dont Hurt Me macrumors 603

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    so true, bush said when we went in that those that were with us would partake in the rebuilding of iraq.. what was it 60 some odd nations? and those few that were in bed with Saddam meaning France ,Germany and Russia would be left out. Well looks like george is a man of his word. good for him to bad for those clowns i mean France/Germany.:D
     
  12. G5ROCKS macrumors newbie

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    Only companies from coalition partner nations can bid on the prime contracts, anyone can bid on the sub contracts. I guess that was omitted from the original post.
     
  13. IJ Reilly macrumors P6

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    Subcontracts don't require bids. I guess that was left out of your post.
     
  14. pseudobrit macrumors 68040

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    Too bad for France and Germany, eh?

    Sucker. You're the one (over)paying for it now.
     
  15. G5ROCKS macrumors newbie

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    Here's the story.

    Apparently, some of them do require bids.

    I wonder if it requires bids if it's at night? :D
     
  16. g5man macrumors newbie

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    I don't mind. We paid to rebuild most of Europe, Japan, and the UN would die without us. US investment in most of the middle east and now in Russia is what keeps this world running.
     
  17. pseudobrit macrumors 68040

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    Yeah, that US "investment" in the Middle East sure does keep the world running.

    Like a 767 into a skyscraper.
     
  18. zimv20 thread starter macrumors 601

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    yes, there is a reason. the rebuilding is supposed to be for the iraqi people. and it will be paid for by the US taxpayer.

    therefore, as a taxpayer, i want a contract for a particular aspect of the rebuilding of iraq to be done by the best qualified company for the least amount of money. (sort of the way i, as a consumer, spend).

    should i be happy that i'll now be paying such that companies friendly to bush and cheney can charge me out the wazoo? shall i feel good for the iraqis that the engineers of eritrea, for example, will be designing bridges, rather than germans?

    and i don't suppose anyone's going to end up being accountable for how my money is spent...
     
  19. g5man macrumors newbie

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    Well you only have two choices. If you don't want Iraq rebuild, then don't pay taxes. Someone has to do the work and pay for the materials used, therefore our taxes will need to be used. There is no going around this part.

    The second option is to put someone in the WH for example like Dean who said he would not fund the Iraqi reconstruction or the military there. God I hope he gets nominated.
     
  20. g5man macrumors newbie

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    Blame America first is not a good strategy for regime change at home.
     
  21. zimv20 thread starter macrumors 601

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    OMFG could you miss my point any more wildly?

    1. let's rebuild iraq
    2. let's spend our money wisely
    3. let's get the best company for each job
     
  22. pseudobrit macrumors 68040

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    Nor is regime change abroad a good strategy for America at home.

    Which was my point. But you've always been good at missing points.
     
  23. Ugg macrumors 68000

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    It's so funny to read such misguided statements like yours. Once again, the reason the US economy has been growing is because the rest of the world was willing to invest in us. Our trade deficit is scandalous and today the dollar was selling like hotcakes. Had it not been for Japan buying 18,000 billion yen worth of dollars today today, link it is very likely that the dollar would have fallen to historical lows. In other words, the only reason we have the money to invest is because others are investing their trade surpluses with us. The US has had little or nothing to do with the reconstruction of eastern Europe or Russia, the majority of the money has come from western Europe.

    It is true that Europe is very happy with the very low oil prices due to the fact that oil is priced in dollars, but the Sauds and all the other opec members are pretty pissed at the US for keeping the dollar down. You can bet that before long, there will be a two-tier oil pricing scheme so the oil producers don't lose their shorts every time the US decides to deflate the value of the dollar. If you'll notice as well, treasury bonds aren't selling very well these days overseas. The US is a piss poor place to invest and the world or at least the business world is pulling out and finding other places to put their money.
     
  24. zimv20 thread starter macrumors 601

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    if the world loses confidence in the dollar, we're gonna be a lot like japan in the 80s and 90s: well ****ed.
     

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