U.S. Dodges Robertson Comments on Chavez

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  1. leekohler macrumors G5

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    i would be impressed if the administration officially condemned the statement. i expect to be disappointed.
     
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    Well, they have to be careful. Don't to make their base mad! Just goes to show you, they don't care about doing the right thing, they just want to please their base and get re-elected.
     
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    Since we've now got three (count 'em three) threads on this subject, I guess I have permission to repeat my point.

    I have to wonder what the consequences might be if someone who wasn't part of the president's political base advocated the murder of an international leader who happened to be friendly to the U.S.. Surely the administration would not have let it go so lightly. Surely they would have expressed at least some small degree of outrage. Just another example of the tone-deafness we've learned to expect from the Bush administration.
     
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    Or, indeed, if someone from another country advocated topping George.
     
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    Sounds like Robertson just declared a fatwa on Chavez. Except he doesn't have the balls to stick to it since he's now claiming that 'assassination' means 'kidnapping'. :rolleyes:
     
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    Is that "take him out" as in "take him out the door"?
     
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    I wonder if this little incident makes 'Rat wonder whether Christianity is a religion of peace...

     
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    Or, "take him out for lunch"?
     
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    (slapping palm to forehead)
    Just another boneheaded religious person. :rolleyes:
     
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    Careful with that: you might crack the screen. I've heard they're not too robust.
    :p
     
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    Funny how when it's Newsweek, they're inciting violence by saying the wrong thing, but when it's CBN it's nothing more than 'the expression of one citizen.'
    Isn't this supposed to be a president with strong moral compass, who will stand up to anyone no matter how unpopular the position? Pretty lame reaction so far... One could almost get the impression he is afraid to piss of the base of the American Taliban wing of the GOP.
     
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    assassination vs. kidnapping = it's a matter of longer or shorter "naps". Unfortunatley, "backpedal" gets lost in translation. "Repensar" doesn't quite provide the same illustrative picture.
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  14. skunk macrumors G4

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    How about "eating your words"?
     
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    Ya, that would be in line with
    "meterse la pata" would transliterate well, but then we'd be back on "foot".
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    Good call. Have we all noticed that Robertson hasn't apologized for his remarks, only tried to "explain" them? Even Trent Lott was more forthcoming when he was caught with a bad case of foot in mouth disease. Hey, Pat -- even an insincere apology is better than none, but I bet you've got way too much pride for that!
     
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    As IJ already observed, with three threads on the subject I'm repeating myself, but the importance of Robertson's statement is that he is so close to the reins of power. Every GOP operative and elected official who works with Robertson should be asked to not only repudiate his statement, but also any ties with him in the future. How can the President condemn terrorism and then meet and greet a man who advocates murder? Don't get me wrong, I've no doubt Bush would like to do what Roberston suggests (indeed I wouldn't be surprised if he has already tried,) but he is not quite dumb enough to crow about it. Still, Bush and all of Robertson's GOP pals should have their feet held to the minister's fiery words.
     
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    well, pat has this terminal infection called "his head up his ass" that prevents him from apologizing.
     
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    nice lie he's caught in.
     
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    He's run for president, don't forget. Carried several states in the Republican primary.
     
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    A strategy that the GOP themselves would understand very well...
    Indeed you can tell a lot about a person by the company they keep... And who keeps company with Robertson? Well, Shrub for one. The GOP has consistently aligned themselves with these kinds of people, to the point where they can rightfully be called the party of Robertson and Falwell and Dobson.

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    Yes, and he claims credit for Bush's election. Regardless of the validity of the claim, there is no doubt about Robertson's influence in the Republican Party. This is not some isolated zealot speaking only for himself. In fact, if one person truly embodies the validity of the phrase "the American Taliban" it is Robertson. Want to fight extremist religious politicians? Start at home and then the rest of the world may start to believe we aren't just about starting a modern day Crusade in the Middle East.
     
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    Not to mention the fact that he's a @#$%ing Nazi...
     
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    Agreed. It's about time someone forced them to explain why they continue to use and invite the influence of the bigoted and lunatic fringe masquerading in clerical garb. Truth be told, Bush is not really different, but the SCLM gives him a free ride on this kind of extremism within his own ranks. About time he is called on it.
     

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