U.S. PC Shipments Continue to Slide in 2Q13 as Apple Lags Overall Market

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  1. macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001

    Research firm Gartner today released its preliminary calculations of PC shipments for the second quarter of 2013, finding that worldwide shipments fell by 11% over the year-ago quarter, the fifth straight quarter of year-over-year declines. According to Gartner's numbers, the U.S. market held up significantly better than the global market, but still declined by 1.4%. Gartner continues to attribute the declines in the PC market to strong growth in tablets.
    Gartner's Preliminary U.S. PC Vendor Unit Shipment Estimates for 2Q13 (Thousands of Units)
    Gartner's number show Apple underperforming the overall industry in the United States, with the Mac maker posting a 4.3% decline in shipments compared to the 1.4% decline in the overall market. Apple was able to hold on to its third-place ranking in the U.S. market behind HP and Dell, although fourth-place Lenovo is closing quickly on Apple, driven by nearly 20% year-over-year growth in the U.S.

    Apple's U.S. Market Share Trend: 1Q06-2Q13 (Gartner)
    Apple does not rank on Gartner's list of top five vendors on a worldwide basis, with Asus holding down the bottom spot at 6.0% of the market. All of the top five worldwide vendors saw year-over-year shipment declines, although Lenovo's minimal 0.6% drop allowed it to take the worldwide crown from HP, which experienced a 4.8% decline.

    Article Link: U.S. PC Shipments Continue to Slide in 2Q13 as Apple Lags Overall Market
  2. macrumors 65816

    Mar 18, 2010
    Not surprised...no new releases in the core notebook lineup yet from Apple. Those peaks on the chart all appear around the usual MacBook update timeframe (Spring/early summer) I think. With no new releases this year apart from the air, it's not really surprising that their YOY shipments have dropped.
  3. macrumors 65816


    Sep 1, 2010
    Apple needs to add back the option to Upgrade/Replace components . Like Ram and the HDD/SDD back to its lines , thats the reason ill be going back to a PC for my new desktop at the end of the year,

    And the iPad has removed the need for me to use a laptop at all
  4. macrumors 603

    Jun 7, 2011
    Definitely. And bring back the 17" MBP with 4k screen.
  5. macrumors 68030


    Sep 3, 2011
    Whether or not users can upgrade these things themselves isn't going to have much of an effect on sales. The simple fact is that most consumers never do either.
  6. macrumors 68000

    Four oF NINE

    Sep 28, 2011
    It doesn't make any sense that Apple would be lagging the overall market for these products!
  7. macrumors 6502

    Jun 9, 2012
    Apple's computers, especially the retina macbook pros are build with such good quality that consumers dont need to upgrade every other year, but rather every 3-5 years. Makes sense
  8. macrumors 65816


    Jul 12, 2011
    UCD, Ireland
  9. Editor emeritus


    Jul 10, 2003
    Falls Church, VA
    But many consumers ask "tech" people for advice before they do, and a decent number of technical people have really been turned off by the non-upgradability of the machines. I'd only recommend someone get a spec'd out machine from Apple or get one that is still upgradeable, and both of those options have the highest price premiums of the line.

    Compare that to Lenovo which has some of the cheapest options out there and are pretty well considered by many in tech circles, and it can be a tougher sell nowadays.
  10. macrumors newbie

    Mar 5, 2010
    Why is Lenovo surging?

    I must really live in a bubble. The number of Apple laptops I see around me on a daily basis makes them seem dominant. Maybe my shareholder eyes are just really good at picking them out of a crowd.
  11. macrumors 68040


    Feb 12, 2010
  12. macrumors regular

    Jul 16, 2009
    Hardly a shocker...

    Most people use the internet for facebook or reading, videos (RE: consuming content)... why would they buy a $1,000 MacBook Air when they can get an iPad Mini for $300?

    And it's not like an update to their Mac line will see a huge surge in sales.

    This is why Apple needs to stop screwing with their Prosumers.
  13. macrumors regular


    May 19, 2013
    Melbourne, Australia
    Very predictable research in regards to PC decline, Tablet uprise and underperforming Mac sales for the 2nd Quarter.
    What interests me is how the number was only at a 1.4% decline this quarter as opposed to the significant 11.2% the previous quarter.

    Anyhow, refreshed Macbooks Airs will surely change the landscape around for Quarter 3. I just wonder if Apple will look to release the new Pros later this quarter (or beginning of quarter 4) to spread quarterly shipments sales more evenly.
  14. macrumors 65816


    Sep 1, 2010


    ive yet to hear of an apple product since ooo at least 2006 onwards that hasn't had issues from launch... Screen ghosting on the RMPs for example... (rest of list is Time Capsules 1st gen failing PSUs, Yellowing Screens on i-Devices, GPU failures in MBPs, Screens sucking in dust on iMacs, antenna gate, case cracking on iphone 3 and 3gs, ongoing issues with WiFi every generation , iPhone 5 "chipping of paint", lots of HDD issues)

    Never ever buy 1 1st gen apple refresh, they use 1st gen purchasers as beta testers because their quality control and product testing SUCKS due to the attempt at product launch "secrecy"

    Id like to see them release a product, which , from day one, lasts 18months without a trip back to apple for a fix

    Love the products after they get it right for the Rev 2 boards
  15. macrumors 601

    Jul 11, 2008
    Perhaps Apple should stop trying to charge me an extra $300 for 256GB SSD, bring my 21.5 iMac from $1500 to $1800. YOU DIDN'T DISCOUNT THE FACT THERE'S NO HARD DRIVE IN THE CUSTOM BUILD APPLE! If it's $1500 WITH a hard drive, why isn't it a bit cheaper without the hard drive, BUT with the added fee of the SSD?
  16. macrumors regular

    Jun 18, 2010
    yes it does

    1) last year Apple was least affected from the market downturn compared to the prior year, so by virtue of having higher numbers last year, relatively speaking this year will look worse.

    2) Apple products didn't have the Windows 8 Affect (requiring an upgrade for the new OS, because... it's just easier than trying to upgrade in place for most mere mortals). Mountain Lion came out... and people installed it on their current device. No HW sales bump.

    3) Apple PCs last longer due to build quality and the quality of OS integration. PCs, especially the <1000 laptop, are built to be obsolete in 18 months.

    4) Corporate PC purchases have been on hold for 2 years waiting for Win8.... And once seeing Win8, they are now installing Win7;-), and replacing old hardware in the process.

    Lots of reasons for the lag relative to the market. But my guess is that sales wise, Apple is actually doing fine.
  17. macrumors newbie

    Mar 4, 2009
    I may be in the minority here, but I've held off on an upgrade because I am waiting to see what kind of prices Apple is going to expect for the new Mac Pro. I can't imagine I'm the only one though, and that has to be eating into their sales at least a little.
  18. macrumors 68040


    Jun 26, 2009
    Burpelson AFB
    These numbers must have to do with no new computer products in such a long time. But these are only numbers. Analysis will be interesting.
  19. macrumors 68040


    Jan 15, 2008
    Holocene Epoch
    This has nothing to do with people delaying purchases until the new Haswell-equipped models drop?
  20. macrumors member


    Aug 26, 2012
    London, England
    Sure it does. Where is the entry level product for the Mac laptop line? $1000 for an 11.6" inch laptop isn't going to cut it. Apple needs to bring back the MacBook to address the entry level tier which they are currently not in.
  21. macrumors 6502


    Feb 8, 2013
    New York
    Apple doesn't sell the most computers. They make the best computers though. Period. The best things in life aren't cheap.
  22. macrumors 603


    Aug 5, 2010
    If I switched to using Windows all the time, I would buy a Lenovo.
  23. macrumors 65816

    Jun 10, 2007
    since apple no longer allows upgrades of their machines and the parts they use inside are more or less bottom of the barrel (cheap ram, slow ssds, nics that dont support jumbo frames, some laptops dont even have lan anymore which is useless for large file transfers, no wifi AC until just now)

    i got a lenovo y580 instead, for half the price of the retina macbook ($1279) i got the following

    Intel i7 3630
    15.6" 1920x1080 with 97% color gamut
    16GB Corsair vengeance (upgraded)
    512GB Samsung 840 Pro SSD (one of the fastest ssds you can buy)
    256GB Samsung mSATA (for OS)
    Bluray burner (optional HDD bracket option for tripple SSDs)
    nVidia GTX660M 2GB ram
    Intel 6205 2x2 AGN (but this laptop allows me to upgrade to any wifi card i want, so once intel comes out with an AC card i can just upgrade it for not much more than $20, i dont have to buy a whole new laptop)

    i just dont see the point of buying something twice the price with half the speed and half the connectivity.


    thats strange, they dont make computers at all, Hon hai makes all the computers, the same company that makes HP's computers (more of their business line than consumer).
  24. macrumors 65816


    Mar 5, 2003
    Seattle, WA
    It blows my mind that people are still buying a Dell or HP over Apple.


    Exactly. I'm STILL running just fine on my 6 year old iMac, which will also be able to run Mavericks when it's released. Their products are just too good. Bad for Apple as a company, good for consumers.
  25. macrumors 68040


    Jun 13, 2004
    If you use(d) your laptop just for web browsing yea. Anything else forget it. Laptops are still king for just about everything else.

    How about gaming? Macs aren't the best option. It's naive to think otherwise.

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