U2 fans furious at group's iPod deal

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    i don't get it. if Apple is connected to something bad, like child labor or something uncool, then i would complain. "selling out"? yeah right. bono uses designer sunglasses too. how dare he wear them while there are hungry children in africa... :rolleyes:

    it is a business thing.

    off-topic: i hope the songs in the u2 iPod would be in lossless.
     
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    These U2 zealots are the same as mac zealots - of course U2 are selling out... (if that's what they want to call it). The very fact U2 have an album on release is selling out - by definition! It's released by a record label... unless U2 have harnessed the energy of goodwill and the album has written/produced/marketed itself?

    *skeptical/bit p'ed-off*


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    Man, and they say Apple zealots are bad... Get over it kids. U2 sold out years ago. That's what bands do when they hit it big. They will never have another Joshua Tree. You can enjoy their new stuff, or deal with it. Not to mention the fact that we don't actually know what will happen yet, nothing has officially been announced. Maybe they can take their own advice, and realize there are more important things in the world.

    Reading http://forum.interference.com/a99707.html makes me think she's just trying to drum up some "controversy". :rolleyes: I don't see too many furious people. Most seem to be saying they will be buying new iPods (even if they already have one).
     
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    Well yes, we never hear of Vivendi employees like U2 and corruption in the same sentence :rolleyes:
     
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    Umm... what's exactly is the issue here?

    "Some pockets of U2 fans will rankle at the band aligning themselves with a major corporation such as Apple, but yet also aligning themselves with AIDS charity work," Alison said.​

    Right... so, instead of having a corporation distribute their recordings (which seems pretty hard to avoid), they should what, have their CDs manufactured and disributed by an AIDS charity?! :confused:
     
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    Or are they just narked because Apple is cooler than U2?
     
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    ...because U2 has NEVER been about commercialization or making money.

    Whatev! Fans: get over yourselves. Go back to your selfless, noble, low-paying humanitarian jobs fighting against sweatshops, intolerance, and other social injustices.

    Since U2 fans surely are making a stand against capitalism themselves, I wonder how they are even able to listen to U2 CDs without a CD or portable player, made lovingly by some low-paid Taiwanese worker.

    Give me a break. U2 was offered a swank promotional deal from a company and a product they like and they took it. They have each been multi-millionaires for years already due to music sales, promotional deals, and corporate sponsorship. Who cares? They're U2, not Mother Theresa.

    BTW, music fans that cry "I liked them before they sold out" always look like hypocritical schmucks.
     
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    U2 sold out years ago. Are U2 fans living in 1979???
     
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    U2 sold out when their music was the theme for Tomb Raider. Sorry guys.
     
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    haha, this is so stupid. U2 selling out....in 2004? hahaha. apparently some people have a very high threshold for what qualifies as 'selling out'. i wonder if they're also waiting for The Rolling Stones to sell out...
     
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    yes, i was mad at that folk singer Britney Spears when she started advertising Pepsi. HOW COULD SHE???????
     
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    these people make no sense...

    first of all, how old are they? what did they call zooropa? experimentation? i have to call that selling out far worse than this alignment with apple. ast least they have brought back people who made the first albums good like daniel lanois. they talk about U2 being sell-outs and the good things that they have stood for being negated, but it's all BS. the way i see it U2 getting more and more popular and more and more powerful is the best thing that can happen if you want them passing out goodness and moral lessons all over the world. since MORE PEOPLE WILL LISTEN AND HEAR IT. rejects.

    "i am a U2 fan... and i think this is a good idea" and if you don't like it, don't buy the U2 iPod so i can be sure to get mine.

    suck it up people.
     
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    how is this selling out anyways ?

    they simply change the media of distribution. from cd to ipod. U2 (or thier managers) realized the iPod as a viable distribution channel, Apple jumped on it and to make the event / cd coming out, made a black ipod, which im sure didnt require more than a phone call to the injection mold company to say instead of white for this batch, wed like black...

    i dont listen to U2 much, so dont hold it against me how thier band is organized.

    if nothing else this helps both partys. I ust to be into Nine Inch Nails heavily, and if apple were to release a special iPod with their new cd (which is coming out soon) i may consider getting it, specially if its a different color.

    i know people who arent even into U2 that much and are considering getting the black iPod. Color effects people very strongly now adays.

    anyways, just my opinion. i may be wrong.
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    charity

    My guess is that Apple is giving a portion fo the proceeds to U2's AIDS charity. Let's hope.
     
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    Dear Whiny U2 Fans,

    U2 sold out long ago. They also aligned themselves with a major corporation long ago. Nothing new here, stop whining, move along.

    Sincerely,

    The rest of the world
     
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    That would be a nice touch - but it remains to be seen what the price of these new iPods will be - and will you have to pay for all the songs on them? If its a significant U2 catalog of songs - that's going to add a bit to the bottom line.

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    selling out?! get the [bleep] outta here! selling out is when you do something for money against your principles. this is so far from that and i for one being a u2 fan for many years, will certainly be getting my u2 ipod. keep up the good work u2 and apple :D
     
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    dang double post *mutters bout his net connection
     
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    Hi,

    saw this thread and since I'm a huge u2 fan I felt I had to register just to reply : D

    Just to explain why some fans might be disenfranchised by the band and why they are only now branding them as sell outs -

    u2 unlike other major bands haven't accepted corporate sponsorship for tours or tie-ins promoting any product before (though some might forget the exclusive best buy EP)

    That's how some feel. Personally I don't see this apple-u2 partnership as going against such notions as U2 are essentially promoting their music and not receiving money to promote an unrelated commodity...

    What really surprises me is that the whinging minoroty (or moronity as I like to refer to them) in this case have made the news. If that journalist bothered to check his or her resources better then they'd find that the site that person quoted is associated with is perhaps one of the largest u2 fan site but it is also the one with the worst reputation amongst online fans and other u2 webmasters. Having said that, the article linked to on macbytes.com seems to have taken words out of context or something (or is the site run by jealous ms owned peeps? Or the person who was interviewed is backpedalling very quickly should she incur further wrath of u2 fans...



    U2 Lovers Mad? Most Excited With iPod Deal, Fan Website Editor Says

    by Brad Gibson, 9:00 AM CDT, October 25th, 2004


    The majority of fans of the rock group U2 are happy and excited with
    its expected announcement of a deal with Apple Computer to launch a
    special-edition U2 iPod, contrary to published reports saying many are
    "furious" over the partnership, according to the editor of the groups
    largest fan Web site.

    Carrie Alison, the editor of the U2 fan site Interference.com, told The
    Mac Observer Monday that a published report giving the impression the
    majority of U2 fans are mad about the reported Apple partnership is
    contrary to the truth.

    "Pretty much everyone is darn near ecstatic about the upcoming
    announcement," Ms. Alison told TMO. "The iPod is so popular and it is
    the must-have item for U2 fans. Many of our readers can't wait to buy
    their first iPod. The reaction has been more skewed to people being
    very, very excited about it. I really haven't seen many being very
    critical of the news, except non-U2 fans who are more skeptical."

    Ms. Alison said she specifically told The Independent reporter that
    while there might be some fan confusion over U2s involvement in charity
    work and at the same time partnering with a large corporation like
    Apple, "most (fans) are very positive and excited.
    * "The reporter, I feel, chose to skew the article to say fans were
    furious when that's not what I said and that's not the case," she said.
    "At no point did I ever say U2 fans were furious and screaming 'sell
    out', because honestly that's just not the case. They are excited and
    loyal."

    Apple announced October 18 that a music event would be held this week,
    and that U2 would attend, sparking rumors that the event would see the
    launch of a U2 branded iPod. This iPod is expected to come preloaded
    with U2's new album, How to Dismantle an Atomic Bomb, as well as a
    selection from the group's previous works. As is Apple's standard
    policy, it has refused to comment further on Tuesday's announcement.

    Ms. Alison said she believes that even before the official
    announcement, the news has already energized the U2 fan base. "You can
    tell U2 fans are paying attention because the number of visitors to our
    Web site has increased dramatically since the showing of the iPod/U2
    commercial on television in the U.S."

    Ms. Alison said many U2 fans who already own an iPod or iPod mini- what
    she projects at being around 60%, at least in her fan Web site - are
    hoping and suggesting Apple do something to involve them in the U2
    promotion.

    "Many fans are hoping Apple will announce some type of promotion
    whereby existing iPod owners could come into an Apple retail store,
    bring their iPod, and upload the new album onto their iPods for a fee."


    damn it i need a life.
     
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    I am big U2 fan, I have almost every song they released back from the days of 11'o clock tick tock. And I was really happy to hear the news. Infact if they do release the special edition iPods, I would get one even though I can't afford on right now.

    cheers
     
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    What?

    Frogbat, please tell me you didn't really mean to use the word, "disenfranchised", there. Surely you meant something else.
     
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    sorry to disappoint but i chose that word with care - what's the smiley for ironic jibe? : D
     
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    Those U2 fans must be idiots.
    U2 have been involved with Target and Walmart, if I'm not mistaken. Now that's something to be upset about.
     

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