I don't watch much TV but I have SKY in order to watch the NFL for 6 months of the year. I used to just stick a tape in to cover the late game and watch it the next day. But my VCR is making some very odd noises after a recent powercut and it's time to upgrade. My options are either to fork out for SKY+ (probably £200 or so including installation unless I can get a 'deal' from customer services plus £10 a month for 6 months of the year) but that would only get me the base model of SKY+ (80GB) and I'd be looking at having to get a separate DVD recorder in order to archive anything off it. Or to buy a separate HDD/DVD recorder (there's a Sony 160GB one on Amazon for £260)and keep my existing SKY box. That comes with a FW out so I could dump video onto my HD should I want to. Both allow me to do 'timeslip' but with the Sony I'd be limited to taping the SKY channel I'm watching whereas with SKY I could do record one and watch another but since that's how my old VCR was set up, I don't think I'd find that too limiting. However, people with SKY+ keep telling me that it's the easiest way to do PVR and that stand-alone systems just aren't as good. I only have a Powerbook at the moment so getting an Elgato system is likely not the best option. And tho I do plan on getting an iMac at some point, it's not close enough to cover me for the NFL season. So... anyone with either SKY+ or SKY but a standalone HDD who wants to give me some words of wisdom?