Unlock to go to England?

Discussion in 'iPhone' started by chatster18, Mar 18, 2007.

  1. chatster18 macrumors regular

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    So I am going to England in the summer of 2008. I would love to buy an iPhone, but do you think that Cingular would allow me to unlock it and use it with O2 or Orange while I am out of the country, or am I going to have to be stuck with Cingy for my iPhone and have to buy a prepaid phone to use?

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  2. iMeowbot macrumors G3

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    I don't think they'll have much interest in unlocking it for you, not when they have visions of these kinds of rates in their heads.
     
  3. mpw Guest

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    How much you likely to use the phone and for what?

    If you plan to use it to phone home you'd better be prepared for the roaming costs, if you want a phone to keep in touch with the people you're traveling with while you're away get a prepaid phone or SIM.
     
  4. juanster macrumors 68020

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    After the iPhone comes out, give it a couple of months and you will be able to go somewhere and get it unlocked,, problem is warranty is voided right away,, but then you ll be able to use it with whatever carrier uses sim cards around the world pretty much
     
  5. Addo macrumors member

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    If the iPhone is anything like some of the newer Nokia's then you've no hope in getting the thing unlocked unless you pay the service provider for the codes.
     
  6. juanster macrumors 68020

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    yeah, tahts what i ve' heard, there's a place in toronto where you can go and get that done.... pacific mall,, and asian mall wheremost cellphones are unlocked... there must be one of these round you somewhere..it seems like there snothign thus guys can't copy or unlock (i ve heard some just take way longer than others for them to get the "software" to do it? i dont know how it works t tell u the truth...
     
  7. chatster18 thread starter macrumors regular

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    Ya I took a look at those rates... I bet I will be better off just getting a cheap prepaid phone. But I hope that Ill be able to just pop the sim in the unlocked iPhone and use it there.....just in my hopes and dreams..... ;)
     
  8. iBenzin macrumors member

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    wait isnt there a law that requires carriers to unlock the phone?
     
  9. juanster macrumors 68020

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    laws are different from country to country, i know it's not ileggal to unlock a phone though, you just have to figure out a way to do it.. i dont know if a carrier would ever sell you a code to do so? has anyone in here ever bough a code like this? from whati understood it was done with a software that pretty much hacks into the phone to do so....but i don t know for sure,, i may be totally wrong
     
  10. bluevisor macrumors newbie

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    before I moved back to China, I had a T-mobile phone in the US. All I had to do was to call their customer service, verify my identity, and tell them my email address. within few hours, an email arrived with detailed instruction and a numerical code to unlock the phone.

    I believe Cingular would do the same. it doesn't cost anything, except an international long distance phone call if u r not in the US...
     
  11. TEG macrumors 604

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    I think you are misunderstanding the beauty of GSM. All you would need to do is to purchase an international package (which allows you to use your domestic minutes from anywhere in the world to anywhere in the world), and use the phone as normal. There is no need to change providers, especially since Cingular (at&t mobility) has roaming deals with Vodaphone, Orange, and O2. From the experience I have gained by having friends travel to Germany for 3-months (for school), the extra charge can be as little $15/month.

    TEG
     
  12. yg17 macrumors G5

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    If you're on a US carrier and roam internationally, you're going to get raped on roaming charges. Some of those stupid "international plans" reduce your charges, but there's no way to get free roaming internationally
     
  13. chatster18 thread starter macrumors regular

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    I just hope thats not the case. I want to unlock it and go to England, then come back and resume using it here in the US.
     
  14. TEG macrumors 604

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    You do not want to 'unlock'. There is nothing to unlock to use a GSM phone internationally. Just contact at&t mobility, explain your situation, the fact that you want to purchase an iPhone, and that you will be going to England for a few months. They will advise you on the best course, most likely involving the international plan.

    TEG
     
  15. yg17 macrumors G5

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    If you want to use a prepaid SIM from a UK carrier to get much cheaper rates, you do need to unlock.

    The only international plans cingular offers is something to get discounted roaming rates, but you still pay out the arse. If you're traveling overseas, unlocked w/ prepaid SIM is the way to go
     
  16. deasine macrumors member

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    Personally, I don't think unlocking the iPhone would be easy and I'm pretty sure that Cingular won't let out the secret of unlocking this beauty. For several reasons; one, Apple and Cingular have a pretty tight and obvious contract, for the reason that they won't let you just use any operator. How would they know you are going to use it in UK or perhaps with T-Mobile. The second reason is that it's Apple! I mean how many people manage to actually hack into apple. Apple designs their products to be 'hack-proof' which is good as it is also for security right?

    Just wait until Apple releases it for the UK. Actually I wonder what operator will they have a contract with.... hmm....

    I just hate locked phones. I had to buy mine in Hong Kong for one unlocked.
     
  17. yg17 macrumors G5

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    Legally, I don't know if Suckgular can refuse to unlock it.


    I love T-Mobile's unlocking policy. 90 days in good standing and they'll give you the unlock code. My 90th day with them is tomorrow, I'm going to get in touch with them and get the unlock code for my BlackBerry Pearl just for the hell of it. If only suckgular would do the same
     
  18. swiftaw macrumors 603

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    Really? That's the t-mobile policy? I didn't know that, I've been with them for 3 years and i travel to europe several times a year - if only i'd known before.
     
  19. netdog macrumors 603

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    Just get a cheap pay as you go phone for while you are here and leave your iPhone at home.
     
  20. yg17 macrumors G5

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    Yep, give them a call and you'll be able to get the unlock code
     
  21. chatster18 thread starter macrumors regular

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    That is probably what I will do, with the exception of leaving it at home...still need an iPod! :D
     
  22. AllieNeko macrumors 6502a

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    I don't know about Cingular, but locked T-Mobile USA phones can use SIM cards from international affiliates. I successfully used my locked (too early to get it unlocked) T629 with a T-Mobile UK SIM card while in the UK a couple months ago...

    Here's a list for T-Mobile USA locked phones of what they're programmed to accept, I imagine Cingular MIGHT be similar (the phones allowing SIMs from other carriers that are affiliated) but I don't know where to find out a list. Notice that MOST, BUT NOT ALL of these carriers are T-Mobile. Beeline, Polska Telefonia Cyfrowa, and MTS are the notable exceptions but I dunno if Cingular is close enough to any other carriers:

    204-160 (T-Mobile Netherlands)
    216-300 (T-Mobile Hungary)
    219-010 (T-Mobile Hrvatska, Croatia)
    230-010 (T-Mobile Czech Republic)
    231-020 (T-Mobile Slovakia)
    232-030 (T-Mobile Austria)
    234-300 (T-Mobile UK)
    250-010 (MTS, Russia)
    255-020 (Beeline, Ukraine)
    260-020 (Polska Telefonia Cyfrowa Sp. z .o. - T-Mobile 49% ownership)
    262-010 (T-Mobile Germany)

    310-160 (T-Mobile USA - All 310's)
    310-200
    310-210
    310-220
    310-230
    310-240
    310-250
    310-260
    310-270
    310-280
    310-300
    310-310
    310-580
    310-660
    310-800
     
  23. Mattydj macrumors regular

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    well they have orange phone network in the uk so cant u just keep using it?
     
  24. chatster18 thread starter macrumors regular

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    Yes, at like $1.45 a min... :(
     

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