Up a creek without an iPod

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  1. Washac macrumors 68020

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    Hi All

    It seems that if you do not use an iPod and want to add tracks and playlists to a another make MP3 Player on a Mac you are up a creek without a paddle.

    I bought a Goodmans GMP33000S HD player, it states it is Mac compatable, but is only compatable in the respect that you can plug it in your Mac and drag and drop your tracks onto it.

    Thats OK if you want to just listen to your tracks in any old order.

    Because you can only drag and drop have no software to sync the tunes and make playlists, you have to find a way by fiddling about with the files and ID3 tags so the player plays stuff in Artist/album order.

    How come nobody has written a program to do this on the Mac for other MP3 players? iPod users have iTunes, but I will not use iPods, we had two in a year here and both went wrong.

    I tried a Program called SyncTunes, but even that did not work.

    Any help/ideas would be appreciated :)

    Washac
     
  2. Chundles macrumors G4

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    Blame the company that made your mp3 player for not making a Mac version of their software.

    Can you drop the music in folders or does it have to be track by track?
     
  3. Nermal Moderator

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    That's interesting, iTunes should be able to "talk" to it - the whole point of iTunes was to allow you to manage MP3 players on a Mac (iPods didn't even exist back then). Maybe iTunes only supports certain models or something :confused:

    Edit: Here's a list of supported players.
     
  4. ChrisBrightwell macrumors 68020

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    I have an old-as-dirt Rio 500 that "just works" with iTunes on my PowerBook.
     
  5. ®îçhå®? macrumors 68000

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    Aren't they under warranty so you can just get another one??
     
  6. Washac thread starter macrumors 68020

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    At the moment I just drag and drop the tracks onto the drive on the Desktop.

    Folders, hmmm, how would that work? Silly question maybe but how would the folders be recognised by the Player?

    Folders already on the player are :

    AUDIO
    RECYCLED
    SYSTEM
    SYSTEM VOLUME INFO
     
  7. Washac thread starter macrumors 68020

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    My players is not one of the recognised ones by iTunes :(
     
  8. Washac thread starter macrumors 68020

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    Yup, they sure are, but at their price they should not keep going wrong in less than a year, I really cannot be bothered with them.

    By iPod, breaks in less than a year, send it back, they send new one, new one arrives breaks in less than 6 months, na, not good for a product of its price I'm afraid :(
     
  9. Sesshi macrumors G3

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    You pay less (and it's usually not that much less these days), you get less. There are iTunes plugins to export to M3U playlist formats. Most of these aren't exactly transparent in use but it might work for you. Here's one:
    http://homepage.mac.com/beryrinaldo/AudioTron/Export_Playlist_to_M3U/. The exact implementation and ease-of-use of such playlist differs from each player so I can't advise on how to use it with the GMP. But it should at least work in some fashion.

    Anything goes wrong and iPods are as reliable as most other quality MP3 players, if not more so. And warranty support provided you haven't acquired it through dodgy dealings is exceptional. Your choice looks budget-related to me and argued through hearsay, not failure-related.

    If Goodmans says it is Mac compatible and it isn't, it's not Apple's fault. It's Goodmans'. I would personally suggest trying to get a refund based on any claims of Mac compatibility (if it is explicitly made) and buy a 2Gb Nano instead. The GMP does have features the Nano lacks such as voice recording. If you want to hang onto these then you're going to have to weigh up the pros and cons of losing those features or making do with kludgy playlisting.
     
  10. Washac thread starter macrumors 68020

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    Hi Ya

    My choice was Ipod past expierence related....

    Goodmans just state Mac after all else, almost as an afterthought rather than an upfront declaration, so I paid me money and took me choice.

    The Goodmans player just appears on the desktop as another drive.

    I have a prog called SyncTunes which did put a playlist across from iTunes to the Goodmans, but it asked me what folder I should add this to on the player, here are the choices of folders on the player:

    AUDIO
    RECYCLED
    SYSTEM
    SYSTEM VOLUME INFO

    Tried it in the Audio and nothing, the files are there, but do not show on the Goodmans.
     
  11. Chundles macrumors G4

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    Wow, this sounds like a much better experience.
     
  12. Washac thread starter macrumors 68020

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    I came here looking for help, if I want smart comments I know where to go.

    Thanks....
     
  13. Chundles macrumors G4

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    Have you tried just putting the files in the root directory?
     
  14. Sesshi macrumors G3

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    Wish I could help, but you're going to have to get support from Goodmans on that one. Presuming the playlists output by Synctunes is in M3U format, you'll have to ask them where to put it. It may even be that you have to create a separate folder for them or something.
     
  15. Washac thread starter macrumors 68020

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    Yes, just mailing Goodmans right now on that one.


    Thanks.
     
  16. Washac thread starter macrumors 68020

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    Yup, Just drag and drop all files directly across, all files have their correct ID3 tags, yet the player just wants play them how it wants.

    I have had to number all tracks from 01 - 120 if 120 files on player, then frig with the ID3 tags to get them to play in album order.


    Just contacting Goodmans about all this, see what they say.


    Thanks
     
  17. Washac thread starter macrumors 68020

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    Hi All


    Problem Solved, I found this prog and it works a treat, just have to make sure to remove any Mac hidden files after transfer.

    Copy Playlist To Card 1.1.7 a script for iTunes

    http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/27403

    Also now I know where this copy files to I have another way to do this.


    Thanks for the help. a little of most said led me in the right direction to solve this :)


    Washac
     
  18. Sesshi macrumors G3

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    Cool. Next time don't be a cheapskate and get an iPod :p
     
  19. Washac thread starter macrumors 68020

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    LOL :D
     
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    Recycled and System Volume Info look like they came from Windows. Have you ever connected the player to a Windows system?
     
  21. Washac thread starter macrumors 68020

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    Hmmm, it more than likely is Windows formatted, it came that way.

    That is because as far as I know, most MP3 Players and flsh cards when bought are Windows formatted, and I think I read somewhere that you should not reformatt them as they stop working. I'm new to flash cards and HD MP3 players so I have no idea, I left it as bought.
     
  22. redAPPLE macrumors 68030

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    reason #341 why mac is my platform-of-choice, why iTunes is my music jukebox and why iPod is my digital music player of choice.
     
  23. e²Studios macrumors 68020

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    You mean there are "real" MP3 players that actually work and dont look like hideous M$ products that arent iPods??? *le gasp*
    Ed
     
  24. Washac thread starter macrumors 68020

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    Yup
     
  25. fev macrumors newbie

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    Hi all, sorry to resurrect this discussion but i'm having a nightmare. My gmp33000s only has the system folder on it and a load of wierd symbols. I have used the program suggested but there is nothing in the folder it creates. Any ideas?

    Cheers.
    P
     

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