[UPDATE]Terrorist Attack kills 35 people at Moscow Airport

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  1. quagmire, Jan 24, 2011
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    A suicide bomber set off a shrapnel filled explosive in a crowed area in Moscow Airport. The blast killed 35 and injured 152.

    http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/europe/01/24/russia.airport.explosion/index.html?hpt=T1&iref=BN1
     
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    Makes you wonder what the point of bottled water bans, strip search machines and molestations by TSA agents are if all you have to do is strap a bomb to yourself and blow yourself up at the crowded baggage claim.
     
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    ^^ It wasn't at baggage claim,it was in the arrivals hall,thus not airside.
     
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    Even baggage claim isn't in an area where you have to go through security.
     
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    things are about to get real bad for muslims in that area.

    russians and chinese dont play nice when it comes to terrorism.
     
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    Many people enjoy a false sense of security in places where they feel threatened (like on an airplane). People don't logically access the actual threats in their life. Getting in a car crash, choking on a piece of steak, falling down the stairs, etc. Instead people dwell on the exceptionally unlikely possibility of being killed in a terrorist attack so they welcome the SENSE of security that invasive security checks provide.
     
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    Ah, OK. I'm used to STL where arrivals and baggage claim are almost the same thing since it's not a huge international airport.

    The point stands though - if this wasn't airside, how long until you have to go through security just to go to arrivals to pick somebody up at the airport?
     
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    Lord, I hope they don't start invading Arab nations willy nilly :rolleyes:
     
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    I may be wrong,although as far as I remember all the international airports I've been to baggage claim is only accessible to passengers and is before customs usually considered airside.
     
  10. quagmire, Jan 24, 2011
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    When I drive to Orlando International Airport and Washington Dulles, I can go to baggage claim without going through security. International passengers have their own separated area that is still airside, but not so for domestic passengers.

    With this attack, I bet that will change pretty shortly.
     
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    It appears I am wrong,seems like a rather large security hole.

    I picked up someone else's backpack at LAX,it took considerable effort and showing of passport,boarding pass etc to go back and get the right one.
     
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    Well, I think it depends on international vs domestic. I do remember baggage claim at ORD for international arrivals being in a secure, airside area before customs (and I had to claim and re-check my bag for my connecting domestic flight). I've never flown to ORD as a destination, but I assume domestic baggage claim it elsewhere.

    I guess the question is whether this bomb went off at the international or domestic arrivals area. If it's international, then how did he get in there? Did he board a flight with it, or just run to the exit from outside the airport and blow himself up.
     
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    God, that's awful. Has any group claimed responsibility yet?
     
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    Yeah, international arrivals have their own separated secure area. But, domestic arrivals don't.

    I edited my post mentioning that, but too slow for you two. :eek:
     
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    In contrast, most of the airports I've been to have baggage claim 'outside' of security. Even if you screen people before they go into baggage claim from the outside what's to stop someone from pulling into the 'pick up' lane just outside of baggage claim and blowing themselves up?

    LAX, for example, has like 7 or 8 terminals that are totally stand alone so it's not like they have any choke points to easily add additional security stations (unless you check everyone and their car before they enter the airport.


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    EDIT: International arrivals are usually sealed off but domestic are not.
     
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    Exactly. You can keep moving the security checkpoint closer to the airport entrance, but as long as you have that bottleneck, you're going to have a large number of people in a small area.
     
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    religion of islam.
     
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    Death toll raised to 35 people killed and 152 injured. Original post has been updated.
     
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    Source?
    Reason?
     
  20. arkitect, Jan 24, 2011
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    Oh, really? So you have some insider information that currently none of the news agencies (or Russian government) have?
    Care to share?

    While "rebels" may be suspected there has been no confirmation.

    Your stuck record is truly grating.
     
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    We have no evidence of that as of yet.
     
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    Oh, good. I was seriously worried there. Now I see that he is just blowing smoke.
     
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    He does anything else? :confused:

    Dagestan or Chechnya probably is the reason behind the bombing, but for anyone to automatically jump to a gloating conclusion that religion of islam is behind it is just ***** up.
     
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    Haven't lurked long enough to know him. My bad.
     
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    Ah, I assume they were "Bush haters"...
     

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