Upgrading Core Solo to Core 2 Duo

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  1. BeefUK macrumors member

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    I've been lookin at upgrading my mac mini core solo to a Core Duo or Core 2 Duo. Can't seem to find out if you can upgrade from a Core Solo to a Core 2 Duo chip, probably 2.13GHz. Also any additional tips from people who have tried this would be great.
     
  2. dpaanlka macrumors 601

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    Yes, you can.
     
  3. Fleetwood Mac macrumors 65816

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    Onces the prices come down a bit more, I'd like to do this with my core solo. Once you go ahead with it, make sure you report your experience here. I'd love to read about it.
     
  4. Lord Blackadder macrumors G5

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    It isn't financially sound to put a $400+ 2.16GHz C2D in a Mini right now IMHO, unless you have the CPU laying around or get a crazy good price somewhere. Even the Yonahs are still pretty pricey.

    You can get a 1.66 C2D for around 200 bucks, but I doubt that will make a huge difference over your current CPU.

    Still, when the price does drop, it will be a very nice upgrade. Ever since they went Intel, the upgrade potential of the Minis jumped quite a bit. And having two DIMM sockets rocks. Just wait till 2GB DIMMs get cheap...:cool:
     
  5. mopppish macrumors 6502

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    Dude, the 1.83 C2D is $240 and the 2.0 C2D is $295 from NewEgg.
    I would say thst one of those is definitely worth it.
    You payed $599 for your Core Solo, right? A Core Duo at the time was $799, and the 1.83 CD right now goes for that much. It was a $200 price difference for CD vs. CS when you first bought- I'd say it's definitely worth $300 more to get a 2.0 C2D.
    I'D pay a total of $899 for a Mac Mini that's significantly faster (higher clock AND bigger cache) than even the best one you can buy from Apple right now.
    Go for it.

    EDIT: By the way, even a Core Duo at the same clock speed as your Core Solo would make a significant difference because, you know, it IS a whole extra CPU core.
     
  6. Lord Blackadder macrumors G5

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    You are probably looking at the Core Duo prices, not the Core 2 Duo prices...

    I was just looking at Newegg, and they price the Core 2 Duo T5600 (1.83GHz) at $241.99 and the T7200 (2.0GHz) at $295.49 ($275 if you get an OEM CPU). The 2.16GHz T7400 is a whopping $419.

    Still, a Core 2 Duo 1.83GHz would be a nice upgrade.
     
  7. mopppish macrumors 6502

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    Ummm.. You just posted the same dollar amounts that I did.
    I think that we were both looking at the same processors. ;)
     
  8. Lord Blackadder macrumors G5

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    Oops....:eek:

    Anyway, as you can see, the 2.16 is probably not worth it. But the others might be. If I was going this route I'd suggest bumping the RAM to 2GB while you're at it, to get the most out of the new CPU.
     
  9. bearbo macrumors 68000

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    does it mean you can potentially get upto 4GB in mac mini?
     
  10. Lord Blackadder macrumors G5

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    Actually, probably not. :p

    You can physically put 2x2GB DIMMs in there, but I don't think it will recognize DIMMs that size. I believe all machines that use that Intel chipset are limited to 3GB RAM (hence the 3GB limit on the iMacs).
     
  11. lmcintyre macrumors regular

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    I thought that the 2gb limit was due to the core solo/duo chip. Cant you go up to 4gb when you have a C2D?

    Theres a good chance I'm wrong, but I could have sworn I heard that somewhere.
     
  12. Lord Blackadder macrumors G5

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    According to Intel, the 945G chipset can address 4GB. Still, I seem to remember 3GB being a limit for some reason...
     
  13. Maxwell Smart macrumors 6502a

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    Yeah, a maxed out mini would be quite the performer. You could even do that mod to use an external large 7,200RPM hd off the internal SATA bus :)
     
  14. Lord Blackadder macrumors G5

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    It would be really sweet if Western Digital were to come out with a 2.5" Raptor for laptops...that would make a great upgrade for a Mini.

    I'm still hoping that the next revision of the Mini will have a real embedded GPU, even if it's something old like a GeForce 6200TC. It would make a difference and complement the new, much faster CPUs the Minis now have. I love the G4 (still use one on my main machine), but the Core CPUs are just stunning.
     
  15. Maxwell Smart macrumors 6502a

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    Yeah, unfortunately, the only bottleneck I can see with a maxed out mini is the GPU :( Everything else would fly.
     
  16. Chundles macrumors G4

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    The chipset allocates memory (around 700MB) above 3.3GB to the I/O so you can put in 4GB but you'll only have 3.3GB addressable memory. Since there are no 3GB RAM sticks, I would suspect Apple have limited BTO configurations to a max of 3GB to ensure that people aren't going to bog their complaint lines down whinging about not being able to have 4GB in a portable/Mac mini/iMac.
     
  17. Lord Blackadder macrumors G5

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    That makes sense. Still, it would be nice to have a DDR Mac that can take 4GB. There are a lot of people that could use 4GB, but don't need twin Xeons.
     
  18. BeefUK thread starter macrumors member

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    Yeah thats kind of what I was thinking, hence the 2.13 I mentioned. Have done a bit more research in price, and they aren't as cheap as I originally thought. I don't indend on opening my mini up more than once. I'm not certain I will go ahead and upgrade but just wanted to know if I could.

    I was just gonna add more ram, but may as well add a processor and harddrive. Promise to report my findings if I go ahead!



    I got the Core Solo for £299 (cheap here in the UK)Cheers for all your comments
     
  19. Chundles macrumors G4

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    That's what Santa Rosa is bringing, amongst other things.
     
  20. Swarmlord macrumors 6502a

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    Price of the chip aside, what kind of soldering work is involved in attempting this? The last time I attempted a soldering job to a pin grid array type chip, the heat from the soldering iron made a mess of some of the pads. I was able to get the whole job done, but it wasn't a pretty sight.
     
  21. Ryan T. macrumors 6502a

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    I was under the assumption they're swappable without any soldering.
     
  22. Lord Blackadder macrumors G5

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    The Mini uses a socketed CPU, so no worries - there's no way in hell I'd try to solder one of those! :eek:
     
  23. 4JNA macrumors 68000

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    works well

    did this awhile back, see the thread HERE.

    i got a core solo for $400, and felt like the $300 for the T7200 was a decent investment based on return. this thing flies. like kicks the crap out of my g5 kinda fast. and it is silent, and running actually cooler than it was with the core solo. best of luck.
     
  24. kermit4161 macrumors regular

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    Time to resurect this thread...

    I'm considering buying a Core Solo Mini and upgrading the CPU to a C2D. ZipZoomFly.com has them priced really nicely right now (a little bit over $200).

    My question is... which C2D processor type do I get... Desktop or Mobile???

    I know the original Mini was basically an iBook motherboard crammed into the Mini case. Is this still the same? Would that suggest the C2D Mobile processor???

    Has anyone else tried this recently? I've read some good reports of it being fairly easy to upgrade. The hardest part being getting the case open. I upgraded all the RAM on several minis my old workplace purchased (G4 Minis) without any incidents. You just need a flexy putty knife (and go SLOWLY).

    I'm really looking forward to this project. I might even try to get some extra credit in one of my classes for it. Then, when I get enough $$ saved up for a bigger system, I'll move the Mini over to the entertainment center (yet to be built). Minis rock :D

    Thanks!
     
  25. livingfortoday macrumors 68030

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    You have to get a mobile processor. I recently upgraded my Core Solo to a plain ol' Core Duo (got a good deal), and it's quite a performance increase for CPU-intensive tasks, lemme tell ya.

    The install itself is pretty straightforward, you've only gotta be careful on the little pins that hold in the heatsink. I broke off the bottom of one by accident, and had to run out to buy nylon screws/nuts. Not fun.
     

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