Using Mac OS 9 fonts on Intel Mac Mini ...

Discussion in 'Mac Basics and Help' started by YTSEMAC, Sep 1, 2006.

  1. YTSEMAC macrumors newbie

    Aug 29, 2006

    Hi again.

    When I bought my Intel Mac Mini from Apple, the sales
    person told me that there wouldn't be a problem using
    OS 9 fonts on the new machine. This has not been my
    experience so far. To date, I haven't been able to use
    any OS 9 fonts even though I've tried several different
    means of installing them.

    I am a freelance designer and type is the lifeblood of
    my work, but I'm STILL having to work between my old
    G4 and the new machine!

    Again, has anyone got any bright ideas or have the Apple
    sellers simply been economical with the truth and misled
    me in pursuit of a sale? Surely it doesn't mean having to
    throw the baby out with the bath water and having to buy
    a whole new type library? ... say it isn't so ... PLEASE!

    Many thanks in anticipation of your advice and assistance.

    Best wishes,

    John McEvoy.
  2. Blue Velvet Moderator emeritus

    Jul 4, 2004
    There should be no problems using Mac PostScript fonts on your Mini.

    What kind of fonts are they? What software are you using to organise them and what problems are you having trying to use them?

    More specifics would be helpful here.
  3. YTSEMAC thread starter macrumors newbie

    Aug 29, 2006

    Hi again 'BV' and thanks for your reply.

    Firstly, I have only used a small selection of fonts, all
    of which are PostScript and are installed in the system
    fonts folder. I don't know if this is relevant, but when I
    click on the font file and go to 'Get Info' now, the description
    comes up as 'Unix Executable File'. When I do the same on
    the font folder, it comes up as 'document'.

    Secondly, as you will have guessed, I don't use any
    software to organise my fonts. Could that be the problem,
    and, if so, what would you recommend?

    Next, I have just installed the Interstate type family. When
    I open the fonts folder, the font file icons are graduated
    Black with the word 'exec' in Green (top left) and they are
    in landscape format. The font folder icon is White with no
    type and is in portrait format, the right hand corner is folded
    over. When I go to type and font in Illustrator, there is no
    sign of the files having been installed - in other words, I can't
    use the fonts because they aren't there.

    I hope this is enough information for you to go on and for you
    to offer a solution, but if not, please feel free to ask me more

    Many thanks again for all your valued assistance.

    All the best,

    John McEvoy.
  4. Blue Velvet Moderator emeritus

    Jul 4, 2004
    First off, it sounds as though the resource forks have been stripped from the font files as the OS is not recognising them as fonts. How did you transfer the fonts from your old Mac to the new one?

    Secondly, OSX comes with a basic font management utility called FontBook. You can use this to install and activate your fonts... it's not the best tool for the job if you're dealing with many collections but it'll do for now.

    The way fonts work and where they are installed is very different in OSX.

    This is what I recommend:

    1) If you can, on the old Mac, burn a Mac-formatted CD with your entire font collection onto it.

    2) Take the CD and copy off the font collection into a new folder in your Home folder. Give the folder a name like 'John's Fonts'

    3) Start up Font Book. There might already be an icon in the dock for this program. If not, the program is in your Applications folder... creating a link in the dock might be a good idea if there isn't one there already.

    4) Use Font Book to install the fonts. This will place them where other programs can access them. You can create collections and manage them by sets or individually.

    5) Either read Font Book Help (Help menu) or purchase OSX: The Missing Manual by David Pogue to read up more on OSX. Also, here's the Apple page about Font Book.

    Let us know how you get on. :)
  5. YTSEMAC thread starter macrumors newbie

    Aug 29, 2006

    WOWEE - what a reply 'BV'!

    Will try and check this out tonight/tomorrow and
    get back to you with my findings.

    Once again, thank you so much for your much-valued

    Best wishes,

  6. YTSEMAC thread starter macrumors newbie

    Aug 29, 2006

    Belated hi again 'BV' - apologies for delay.

    Tried as you suggested, but no joy so far.

    As regards the resource forks, these are in
    a separate folder within the fonts folder.

    Whenever I open FontBook and go to 'Add
    Fonts', all the font files are dimmed except
    for the resource fork folder; and when I
    open that, nothing. Help!

    I have an AppleCare Plan, should I contact
    them? It's just that the last time I did, it
    sounded like I was talking to the computer!

    Thanks for reading.

    Best wishes,

  7. Macky-Mac macrumors 68030


    May 18, 2004

    is this on the new computer? I've never had a "resource forks" folder in any of my font folders so something odd has happened.

    try this to see what doubt you have your font files backed up somewhere......copy one or two fonts from your backup to your Mini for a test. Do the "get info" on them to make sure they show as font files instead of the "exe", check this before you drag them to a font don't need to use Font Book to install them, just use the old fashion "drag and drop" least that's continued to work for me. Put them in either "library>fonts" or in "users>(yourusername)>library>fonts" .....but don't install your own fonts in the "system>library>fonts" folder

    Restart and then see if they show up in your programs
  8. YTSEMAC thread starter macrumors newbie

    Aug 29, 2006
    O 'me' of little faith 'BV' ... I really ought to know better!;)

    I have to admit that I thought the suggestion of copying
    fonts onto a CD and then installing them on my Mac Mini
    didn't make sense as I had done the same thing using
    a LaCie PocketDrive, and without success. Obviously,
    there IS a difference as I now have most of the fonts I
    had installed on my G4 on my Mac Mini - the only down
    side is that I'm wondering if they've caused a problem
    with the machine's appearance - please see 'Has my Mac
    Mini got Kryptonite poisoning?! ...' post:

    Anyway, I stand corrected about the fonts and I bow to
    your superior knowledge ... mucho respect!

    Would welcome your thoughts/comments/assistance in this
    very bizarre matter.

    Many thanks again,


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