Utter Disgust

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    tazo

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    I am so utterly disgusted with FOX entertainment. I mean they are coming out with a show called, American Juniors, in which children sing as best as they can, try and win a competition, but their parents get to complain along the way. i can just imagine a FOX exec talking to the shareholders, "I betcha we could make a show about people killing themselves with powertools, we'll call it Americans-who-kill-themselves-with-powertools-idol.

    Augh, it makes me sick and any other person who is not looking forward to a '24/7 (see jim brown's book, 24/7, to see what I mean) situation, should as well.
     
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    MrMacMan

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    Re: Utter Disgust

    Man that show is gonna bomb, it is a horrible idea... :eek:

    you have a link for that?
     
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    shadowfax

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    they found s pretty good cure for this. i like to call it "not watching TV."

    throw that sh** away. americans made me sick long before fox came around. so did a lot of others.
     
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    Sun Baked

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    About the only thing they really haven't shown an interest in is making a reality shown based on the upcoming executions of the two people in Utah.

    "Death by Firing Squad" and the live two-night finale at 12:01am on June 27 & 28.
     
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    applemacdude

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    i hated that show with monica lewinski in it...did they really ha ve to cancel family guy:(
     
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    MrMacMan

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    yeah Family Guy rules, oh well I watch the old eps on Cartoon Network at 11 PM ( on there 'adult swim' lineup)
     
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    hey have you ever watched "extreme make-overs"? It is so unbelievably ****ed up. it is says a lot in which direction we are heading. American tv is the worst piece of **** I have ever seen (and no, I don't watch it regularly). Its only purpose is to make dumb people even dumber...
     
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    That's the Badger!

    Step one of how to improve personal well being.
     
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    shadowfax

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    you'd never be able to guess that from the title, hehe.
     
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    trebblekicked

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    i'm with shadowfax on this one...it's as easy as not watching. unfortunately, all that does is make it even harder for good shows to survive (see: Upright Citizens Brigade, Undeclared, Mr. Show). the lowest common denominator rules american entertainment. if you want to see something good, go take in a play or something. television is the outlet mall of entertainment. for every "Scrubs", there's four hundred "8 simple rules for dating my teenage daughter". if you don't have time to sift through the crap, shop at the mall (or go online;))
     
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    Kethoticus

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    American entertainment

    I'm an American and proud of it. But there are things about my society that do embarrass me, like our TV.

    Monica Lewinsky, a woman who committed adultery with the president of the United States, is being rewarded with her own talk show. Anna Nicole is a fruitcake, but has her own show. FOX news, which I watch regularly, hires the likes of Ollie North, a criminal, as a military/foreign policy commentator.

    "Reality" TV, in my opinion, is for a common mentality, for people who do not have lives of their own (snobby as that might sound). The same for all these debasing morning talk shows. I swear, American TV looks a lot like something Orwell's Proles would regularly enjoy.

    Then there's Nickelodeon. I'm watching this one morning with my stepdaughter-to-be, and what do I see, but what could be classified as child porn: 14/15-year old girls dressed and dancing like Brittainy Spears.

    Yes I agree: the TV is the Idiot's Box. I do enjoy it, but there are plenty of things that I screen out. I love sci-fi shows like Enterprise and SG1. I love Nick@Nite. I like the Discovery Channel and the Cartoon Channel. I also enjoy FOX news a lot (in spite of some of its questionable commentators). But many of these idiotic things coming out are usually replaced by a DVD or a trip to the web or my Maya 4.5 book.
     
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    tazo

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    Re: American entertainment

    Likening all americans to homeless bums who are similar to the proles is somewhat rude don't you think? Why don't you just call all americans 'dalits'. :rolleyes:
     
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    T.V. is often aimed at the lowest possible denominator. The networks know that most people in the United States are undereducated members of the booboise hence the commodification of the news: "All OJ all the time". "New! Exciting! War on Iraq at 11 p.m.!" "Laci Peterson Speaks to a Tortilla From Her Watery Grave!"

    When news becomes entertainment and entertainment becomes exploitation it's certainly not the viewers who benefit.

    Kaching! Kaching!

    That said, there are shows worth watching on television: the Triple Crown is an example of an occasional sports events that's televised every year but doesn't drone on and on. Six Feet Under. The Wire. Sesame Street. Curb Your Enthusiasm.
     
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    All this and pending FCC deregulation decision coming this summer really makes me glad I don't flush $50 a month down the crapper on cable.
     
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    If I remember correctly, I believe there will be a show this fall similiar to "Idol" but it is to look for a new political candidate to run for president in '04. The "winner" will be given a national platform to speak their views and get the all important name recognition. They will then be given the opportunity (and financial backing to at least get started) to campaign. However with the voting irregularites coming to light with "Idol" this may turn into another florida debacle!
     
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    shadowfax

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    Re: American entertainment

    umm, i don't see an offence in calling us proles, per se, except that it's inaccurate. it's not overly pejorative though. what would be more of a proper analogy is likening us to the soma-addicts of Huxley's World. we don't live in an openly oppressive world in America. anyone who thinks that needs to visit some other countries i could name, or, you know, actually read Orwell's book.

    Americans' opinions get swayed by television, a little box that streams soothing entertainment to them at every hour of the day.

    granted, that's not totally accurate, but i know way way too many people who come home from work and watch TV from 6:00 to 10:00, when they go to bed. they never read books. never educate themselves... deeeeee skusting!
     
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    wdlove

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    The only way that the shows will be cancelled is by the power of our clicker. All these shows seem to run in phases. Such as Westerns and Game Shows.
    I'm sure that the reality show phase will end at some point. The only reality shows that I watch are "Survivor" & "Big Brother." My favorite is "Survivior!"
     
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    Mr. Anderson

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    Can't stand any of the 'reality' shows. I went over to a friends house over the weekend and they had The Bachelor on and were glued to the 'draaaama'.

    Uhg. Time for a change. But its going to be a while and more shows will continue for many seasons to come.

    I'm just glad I have digital cable and have a good selection of shows to watch when I'm feeling like it.

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    wdlove

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    What kind of shows do you like to watch Mr. Anderson? I have personally decreased by TV watching signifcantly. The secret to longevity is keeping the mind active. TV is mindless for the most part. Being in the Internet is great because it uses the mind! ;)
     
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    Sun Baked

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    I'm glad I don't know what channel the Bravo Network is on in the area, their spinoff of the reality style show that just finished filming doesn't sound like something I'd like to watch.

    The "Boy Meets Boy" show twist where they pay some "straight" men to tease the poor partner seeking boy may be a little cruel. :rolleyes:
     
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    tazo

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    Yeah a cureb your enthusiasn fan, a new season of it starts first week of June :):) I can't wait. what is your fave episode? Mine is probably the Shaq episode, or the one where Larry David insults the guy at the poker game, he gets called a wife beater. ahh I was a seinfeld fan so its understandable my liking of CYE :)

    -tazo
     
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    jefhatfield

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    i don't mind the idol/24/bernie mac on fox bit

    i spent a good part of a decade in night college taking classes after work and i am exhausted from trying to achieve "something" with my life

    now i am content (for now) to spend my weekday evenings as a couch potato and chilling out and fox seems to have a decent lineup of entertainment...and it takes no thinking which is nice for a change

    if it wasn't fox, i would probably go to some other station and get into a few shows there

    i say this as i have just signed up for four months of night class, (but i have an excuse ;) ... starting in august, learning visual basic...thrills, but it was the only time the class was offered and i want to take the class along with a few others to keep the enrollment to at least 15 students so the school doesn't cancel the class for a second semester in a row

    it seems that since the fall of the dot.com, the general feeling around the region has made young students want to study anything but computer science

    there is still a need for computer geeks but since everybody in the world and their mother (who know computing) moved to northern california during dot.com and can't afford to move out now, it will be a long time before there is job security in this field where i live
     
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    Kethoticus

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    Tazo, Shadowfax...

    ...you completely misread me. I likened those who immerse themselves in garbage TV to the Proles. I was making no broad generalizations about American society as a whole, nor was I suggesting that the American gov't was as oppressive as Orwell's Oceania. Yes, I did indeed read the book. Quite deeply, in fact.

    Not sure how you guys got anything like that from what I wrote.
     

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