Very disappointed

Discussion in 'Alternatives to iOS and iOS Devices' started by charliecc, Sep 11, 2013.

  1. macrumors regular

    Jul 24, 2008
    Don't get me wrong, there's no way in hell I'd buy an iPhone at the moment, they're way too far behind the curve (they wouldn't event make the top 10 best handsets), but I was hoping they would come up with something here to put some pressure on the other players.

    The finger print thingy looks quite cool, but apart from that it's just the same old camera bump and processor increase with an outdated OS.

    Sure it'll still sell in droves as the brainwashed will lap it up, but IMO it's very disappointing. Why would anyone buy the iPhone when you can get a Nexus for less than a 1/3 of the price and it's a better device, the world's gone crazy.

    And yes, I know we owe where we are now to the iPhone, I owned the 3, 3GS and the 4, Android copied it shamelessly, but we are where we are, and now Apple is a follower and not a leader.
  2. macrumors member

    Jun 3, 2012
    I'm happy to get the 5s as soon as it comes out, I think it's a good upgrade from my 4s and everyone watch every single of the androids will now be coming out with fingerprint scanners lol! Oh but iPhone isn't leader of the pack! They all just follow though. Motorola's failed their attempt at fingerprint last time lets see how they go on their second attempt

    How is the iPhone not in the top 10 of the smartphones? Explain?
  3. macrumors regular

    May 6, 2013
    Well, I always skipped the "S" versions of iPhones and it looks like I am not making a mistake this time. Very happy with my iPhone 5, to me it's still the best smartphone on the market. I'll get the 6, because Apple normally doesn't disappoint when releasing new generation phones. The "S" series seem a bit gimmicky to me. Siri was alright, but not that essential to my experience. I suspect the finger printing won't be be either. My iPhone pretty much contains everything important, from online banking to work stuff and I never had a security problem.
  4. macrumors member

    Nov 30, 2012
    This was a sponsored segment by Samsung. Samsung - Copying design from phones to vacuum cleaners.
  5. thread starter macrumors regular

    Jul 24, 2008
    Sorry, I didn't phrase that correctly, I meant my top 10 smartphones. There are at least 10 other phones I'd buy before an iPhone. I genuinely believe they are all better than the iPhone, but again this is personal preference.
  6. macrumors 68000


    Mar 21, 2011
    :confused: at the keynote yesterday, the guy said this was the best phone on the market.
  7. macrumors regular


    May 6, 2013
    5S is a good upgrade.

    5C is a big fail though (yes, the price).
  8. Moderator


    Staff Member

    May 3, 2009
    If you own the 4S, the 5S is a big upgrade. If you own a 5, its a evolutionary step up.

    Since many people (at least here in the US) go with subsidized phones every two years this phone is mainly geared towards those folks. That his the 5S is for the 4S people.
  9. macrumors 6502

    Aug 29, 2013
    I agree, it is a good upgrade, yet most of it is copied from Android, proving once again how hypocrisy reigns supreme at Apple.

    Sadly Apple continues to play catch up, a foreign task for them.
  10. thread starter macrumors regular

    Jul 24, 2008
    :) I think they probably repeat that in the nausea inducing promo vids they've now released, they are very cringeworthy. Just listen to the first 30 secs of this one (30 secs is all I could manage), Classic bollox. "It's more essential", really!! It looks like a parody of an Apple video..
  11. macrumors 601

    Dec 18, 2012
    Charlotte, NC
    You seriously think the Nexus is better than the iPhone? You're entitled to your personal preference but don't try to and pass it off as some sort of fact. I don't see anything particularly that makes it so far ahead of the iPhone. Poor battery life, poor camera, no LTE, limited to 16gb storage, and what is in my opinion an inferior operating system.
  12. macrumors 6502a


    Jan 12, 2013
    The two usage scenarios I like with the fingerprint sensor is not having to repeatedly enter my passcode to unlock the phone and to enter my iTunes password when making App Store purchases. It's a huge convenience, but I agree the iPhone isn't really unsecure to begin with as long as you're responsible.

    In and of itself, definitely not worth a brand new phone purchase.
  13. thread starter macrumors regular

    Jul 24, 2008
    Well this is the major issue. I'll conceed the iPhone has a better camera, although not that much better to bother me that much, and true it doesn't have LTE, but LTE is pointless if you've got a decent 3G connection. A decent 3G connection is fine for what most people do on a mobile phone, don't let the marketeers convince you otherwise.

    However, I'd have to personally disagree with the OS statement. Android is miles ahead of iOS IMO.
  14. KenAFSPC, Sep 11, 2013
    Last edited: Sep 11, 2013

    macrumors 6502a

    Sep 12, 2012
    It sounds like your definition of a "better phone" is directly tied to a larger screen. Aside from the screen size, very few Android devices can match, much less best, the iPhone 5S hardware. The iPhone 5S has:

    1. One of the fastest CPUs -- faster than Nexus
    2. The fastest GPU -- much, much faster than Nexus
    3. The best camera in real world use -- much better than Nexus
    4. Among the best battery life of any phone in actual, real world usage -- much better than Nexus
    5. Fingerprint sensor for security -- not available on Nexus

    I see another poster already mentioned the lack of LTE on the Nexus. Drop from 60Mbps with AT&T LTE on the iPhone to 4-10Mbps with AT&T HSPA+ on the Nexus? No thanks!

    As for the OS, if you haven't used IOS7 then you are not qualified to make Android vs. IOS comparisons.
  15. macrumors G4


    Jun 12, 2012
    from a hardware standpoint there is no comparison, but it is also currently $450 cheaper than the 5S
  16. macrumors 68030


    Apr 13, 2010
    Bedfordshire, UK
    What are these 10 better handsets that are so far ahead of the iPhone?
  17. macrumors 6502

    Oct 8, 2011
    The fingerprint scanner is just a gimmick, and a crappy one at that. We are basically in a two year cycle in regards to innovation from apple. Even the 5 was hardly innovative. They put a bigger screen and changed some internals. The rest of the phone looks exactly the same. The fact is, if most users, for example my brother or parents, picked up the 5s, they probably wouldn't even notice the difference in speed.

    I own a 5, however i'll probably be skipping this update. Siri was a bigger draw to me then a fingerprint scanner.
  18. macrumors 68040


    Apr 18, 2011
    I have to agree here 100%. The price will be the death of the 5C.
  19. macrumors 6502


    Sep 1, 2008
    Arta, Greece
    I was very disappointed as well but not anymore. Apple has decided to stick to 4 inch for another year and mayber for the next 2 models (6, 6s).

    I wanted to return to apple (owned 3g 4, 4s) but I am not going to give them my money until I am perfectly satisfied with what I am buying. iPhone 5s is a superb device. The finger print sensor is a dream come true but I can't accept that tiny screen.

    So I'll stick to android for this year and maybe the next 2 years as well. Until apple decides to give us a choice... A tiny 4" screen and a normal 5" screen. Then everybody will be happy.
  20. macrumors 6502

    Oct 8, 2011
    Thats a dream come true? It barely does anything more then unlock the phone. You would think they would have worked with banks or something along those lines to incorporate it into apps. Or put a restriction on an app where you can't use it without scanning (photos or text messages).
  21. macrumors 604


    Jan 8, 2012
    If you pick and choose only the iPhones pros then of course it's a better phone.

    Anyone could come up with a list of things that are more important. I'm not a Nexus owner nor have I ever been one but I could say.

    Wireless charging, not available on the iPhone

    NFC, not available on the iPhone

    Larger screen, not available on the iPhone

    More ram...this falls under random specs like the A7

    And anything it lacks? Well then you have it's ace in the hole. It's less then half the price of an iPhone. Which I might add is something I was really hoping Apple would do with the 5C. A no contract cheap smartphone sold direct from Apple. Oh well, a boy can dream right?
  22. macrumors 604


    Jan 26, 2008
    Isla Nublar

    Wow someone is a bit snarky.

    Has it ever occurred to you that some people like the iPhone? Nexus is garbage in my opinion compared to the iPhone but I don't go around touting it as fact and calling people who don't like it "brainwashed".

    Some people don't care about specs and prefer user experience. Some people like the quality of apps better on iOS than Android. Some people liking having their phone sync with their computer and iPad effortlessly.

    It's fine if you're "very dissapointed" but don't be rude about it and chastise those who like the new iPhone.
  23. macrumors 68000

    Sep 18, 2009
    Android is a solid operating system, but it's definitely not "miles ahead". As someone that supports multiple mobile OS on a daily basis, I can say (cliche as it is) that they all have the strength and weaknesses.

    To some Android seems like a more robust OS because it gives you options to change more settings and runs similarly to a desktop OS. iOS has those same features, but just does not give you access to all of them, which in some cases is a good thing. For example, my brother recently got a Galaxy S4 and the first weekend he had it he was complaining about idle battery drain. Granted he had not had the chance to mess with any of the settings and download and useful apps, this was his out of the box experience. My iPhone 5 out the box, hardly has any battery drain while idle. My brother will be able to resolve that issue after some setting changes and maybe getting a few apps, but IMO that should not be necessary.

    As for iOS copying Android... You have to keep in mind that Apple releases a new iPhone every 12 months or so. Also keep in mind that the features that end up in that iPhone have been in development for months if not years before release. On the Android front, there are 5-10 releases a month (possible exaggeration) from different manufacturers, but when people use the Android argument, they are usually rolling all these device ideas into one super Android phone in regards to their argument vs. iOS. If the iPhone has a similar feature of a device that was released last month, or two months ago, then they more than likely did not "copy" it. That phone just released first, period.
  24. macrumors 601


    Mar 29, 2004
    Boston, MA
    That shows you how different customers expectations are. I delay upgrading from my 4S as long as possible because I don't like those huge screens. 3 inch or 3.5 inch is perfect. 4 inch is too large. 5 inch is a tablet, not a phone.
  25. macrumors regular

    Jul 1, 2013


    If people want plastic, they'd go for Samsung (the IN-product for young kids)

    If people want IOS, well, it's reported that over 70% (being generous) are using
    android, so...

    If people want iPhone, they'd go for the 5S.



    Nexus isn't a phone.

    nexus is a tablet good for Android games, great for watching videos or movies, and excellent for browsing web and reading netbooks.

    For that price, Nexus is excellent deal.

    Of course, if you want Apps and a brand name, then iPad or iPad mini is for you.

    Can't say anything bad about Nexus, man. Try it and you'll be impressed. For that price, you'd have to be. Seriously, try it out.

    Apple rocks. But, at a price.

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