Videotape Input to PB Solutions?

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  1. aricher macrumors 68020

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    I'm trying to find out what the best solutions are for archiving old videotapes on my PowerBook. I have a ton of old family films on tapes that are slowly degarding that I want to feed into my PowerBook, edit in iMovie and archive on iDVD.

    I don't want to break the bank but want as good of a quailty transfer as I can get.

    Does anyone here have any suggestions of products that might fit the bill? Also, when feeding the video in what program would I be using to capture it? iMovie?

    Thanks in advance.
     
  2. SilentPanda Moderator emeritus

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    Anything that plugs into your Powerbook via Firewire will enable you to capture the video in iMovie. I had a Dazzle DV-Bridge (or something like that) but I don't use it anymore as I have a Mini-DV camcorder that has analog pass through.

    So your options are a DV bridge or a mini-DV camcorder with an analog passthrough. Of course the mini-DVD camcorder will cost more but you get a mini-dv camcorder... :)
     
  3. javabear90 macrumors 6502a

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    I also have a question, how do you watch VHS tapes on you G5 and or Powerbook?
     
  4. aricher thread starter macrumors 68020

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    OK - I just dug this up on another forum. anyone use or have any suggestions about these:

    The Formac is an option. As is Canopus ADVC-100, ElGato TV, ADS USB Instant DVD, and many others."
     
  5. aricher thread starter macrumors 68020

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    Ok - the Formac looks really good - side by side in their comparison with El-Gato the Formac looks much better.

    http://www.formac.com/p_bin/?cid=solutions_converters_studiodvtv

    "Whether you want to convert your analog videos for editing, or turn your Macintosh into a TV with digital video recording capabilities - Formac has the right solution for you! "

    For $299, This device allows you to input video and also has a built-in TV tuner so you can turn your Mac into a TIVO - iMove 3 integrated! Personally I don't think I need the TV feature - anyboady know of anything cheaper
    w/o the TV function?
     
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    Now I've read a ton of great reviews of the Canopus ADVC-100 - does not have Tivo-like features but is cheaper. As I have Tivo already I don't think I'd really use those features. I'm thinking I can pick up a Canopus ADVC-100 on ebay cheap. Any thoughts?
     
  8. live4ever macrumors 6502a

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    I just got the Canopus ADVC-55 it's a one-way bridge analogue>DV only unlike the ADVC-100 which has DV>analogue output. It's cheaper by about $70 (well CDN) and is immediately recognized as a DV input device by iMovie 4, Toast 6.05, Gcam, Evocam, and iChat AV. What's also nice is it's totally powered by firewire so there's no big wall wart.

    I'd give it a very high reccomendation.

    [​IMG]

    review: http://www.simplydv.co.uk/Reviews/canopus_advc55.html
     
  9. jsw Moderator emeritus

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    Avoid El Gato products for this. They work well enough, but they don't let you access the stream separately (meaning you need to record it all, then save it elsewhere, as opposed to just importing it like a videocam feed). Unless you also need a built-in TV tuner, you're much better off with a dedicated analog<->DV device (bidirectional - analog->DV and DV->analog - is better in case you ever want to go back out to tape, but not required).
     
  10. jsw Moderator emeritus

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    I was just looking at that. I wasn't sure if I wanted to sacrifice DV->analog, but the reviews of the ADVC-55 seem very positive. Good to hear that you like it!
     
  11. jsw Moderator emeritus

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    I am also strongly considering the Pinnacle Studio MovieBox DV Version 9 product.

    Anyone know anything about it? It's bidirectional and seems to be a pretty good deal, but I'd like to know if anyone has it or has seen a reliable review of it.

    I'm just a bit concerned I'd be paying for PC software I won't use, but the product itself seems pretty good.

    Edit:

    Never mind. I've seen enough bad reviews I'm going to shy away from it.
     
  12. AmigoMac macrumors 68020

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    Wait...

    I have a Camcorder with analog/digital(Firewire) in/out, doe sit mean I can plug my videorecorder to my camcorder and at the same time the camcorder to the mac and import to iMovie?? If yes, Cool!!! :eek:
     
  13. jackieonasses macrumors 6502a

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    yes what you do is simple..there is a special calbe that should of come with your camera. it has 3 rca jacks. (analog) then you press a combination of buttons and you record it to dv....then capture to mac. i havent tried it but i am taking a guess you can pass through....
     
  14. jsw Moderator emeritus

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    I have an older Sony, one of the first digital ones, and I need to record the analog input to a tape, then connect to do a DV transfer to the Mac. Just about any digital camcorder that was made since, oh, 2001/2002, should be able to just let you connect the VCR to the analog plugs and the Mac the the DV output and act as a pass-through (i.e., no need to tape digitally first, then transfer). Some of the cameras require you to do some set-up in the menus to allow this, and some do it by default.
     
  15. seamuskrat macrumors 6502a

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    I use the Canopus ADVC100 and I love it.

    I takes any RCA or SVHS source and converts on the fly to DV format.

    Is it good to 'watch' VCR tapes? Nope, as it will suck drive space to make that DV file. But if youneed to get old VHS into DV format for FCP, iMovie, and such then its a great tool. Plug and play.
     
  16. aricher thread starter macrumors 68020

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    I think I'll go with the Canopus ADVC100. I don't need the Tivo-type features of Formac or El-Gato and I have yet to find a bad review of the Canopus. Thanks to everyone for their help - I'm off to ebay to search for a deal.
     
  17. Lyle macrumors 68000

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    I'm in a similar situation (i.e. I'd like to "rip" some old videotapes into iMovie) but I haven't taken the plunge yet. I had at least done the research and found what you found, that the Canopus ADVC-100 seems to be the way to go. If you don't mind, would you consider posting back here if (when) you get this working? [Or PM me if that's more appropriate.] I'd be interested to hear how this goes for you.
     
  18. aricher thread starter macrumors 68020

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    Sure - I'll post an update once I get it running - sometime late next week.
     
  19. jsw Moderator emeritus

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    As everyone here might or might not know, once you can do analog->DV, you can use a VCR to watch a TV channel (or, of course, old VCR tape) over iChat.

    You can even script it so you can watch it remotely when no one's at home to handle iChat.

    Just an interesting use for those of us with analog->DV converters - a group I plan to put myself into within the week.
     
  20. seamuskrat macrumors 6502a

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    Keep in mind if you are a student, the Canopus store offers a nice Student/Educational diso****. I used it and it was the best deal around for me.

    Also, the ADVC 50 is cheaper and does nearly everything the 100 does.
     
  21. seamuskrat macrumors 6502a

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    This is what I used my Canopus ADVC 100 to so. I had old research footage on VHA and needed it digital to make a DVD.

    The set up was simple. Plug in firewire cable and power cable. Plug in VCR via RCA jacks. Open iMovie. Press play on VCR. Choose import on iMovie. Wait for movie to inport. Editi in iMovie and export to iDVD and BAM, instant DVD.

    Very easy and nice. I cannot tell any loss of quality, but again, the source if 8 yearold vhs, so it sucks to begin with.
     

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