Wazzup with Safari??

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  1. OldCorpse macrumors 65816

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    The last couple of hours, Safari is really behaving oddly. It's slow as molasses on all sites (usually it's very fast!), and beachballs on every single page, including going back, or forward. When a page is open, it's still beachballing - I think it's finishing the display of graphics - for at least 20-30 seconds during which it's impossible to open a new tab, or if there's already another tab you can't go to it - it's basically frozen beachballing. That's on every site. I'm writing this message, and as I type, from time to time, my cursor freezes, and I have to wait until what I typed actually appears.

    I looked at the Activity Monitor, and Safari is taking 205MB of RAM and 368MB of virtual RAM, and my CPU is at 95% during the beachballing, then it drops to 15% after the beachballing is over. It runs 11 threads. It is becoming unusable. I have not restarted the computer for more than 3 days, though it goes to sleep pretty regularly. I have restarted Safari today, but not since it's been giving me problems. Two days ago, I had Safari full on freeze on me to the point where I had to force quit it.

    Should I reboot? Is this normal Safari behaviour?
     
  2. livingfortoday macrumors 68030

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    That's not normal. Try rebooting and repairing permissions.
     
  3. alexstein macrumors 6502a

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    How do you connect to the internet? Are you using a router and cable/DSL modem. Or just a modem. It might be that your internet connection is somewhat corrupted?

    Your Safari memory usage seems kind of high though. With one page open in Safari and just regular browsing I use about 25MB Real Memory and about 152MB Virtual Memory 7 Threads running. CPU usage 5%.

    Clean out all your safari caches or better yet reset Safari.
    I would reset your modem and than restart your router as well (if you have one that is). See if that makes a difference.
     
  4. spencecb macrumors 6502a

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    I'd say that is definitely not normal Safari behaviour. Mine never acts in that fashion, although I do have my share of problems with Safari. I'm not sure if it is Safari or my internet, but once I command the browser to a website, it usually hangs and I have to tell it to refresh the site or hit enter again before it loads the page in the first place. It is very annoying.

    I did try using Firefox, and it appeared to have the same problem, but not nearly as bad, so it could be a combination of Safari and my internet. **** RoadRunner and Time Warner is what it really comes down to.

    But back to your problem, it should not have anything to do with the fact that it has only been three days since you have shut down/restarted your Mac. I never turn off my iMac or PowerBook, and the only time they restart is when there is a software update that requires a restart. I rarely (if ever) put my iMac to sleep, but my PowerBook, however, spends a great deal of time asleep.

    So anyway, not sure what to tell you about Safari. Maybe you can delete it and download a new copy from Apple.com or pop in your Mac OS X CD as it should be on there somwhere, but check before you delete it.

    Maybe try repairing permissions through Disk Utility.
     
  5. OldCorpse thread starter macrumors 65816

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    Thanks for the replies. I am on a cable modem (Comcast), and Linksys router. I tend to doubt it's the router/modem, as I opened up my Dull Inspiron 1100, and it acts normal, i.e. fast browsing... never had a problem with modem/router. BWDIK.

    I restarted the computer. It seems to have helped. At this point Safari is not quite as blazing fast as it used to be (until this problem started, my safari would have a page up in 4 seconds from a dead start, i.e. without Safari open in the background!). Now, it takes some 4 dock-icon bounces and 10 seconds to actually display my homepage.

    However, I have no problem typing - as I'm typing here, as fast as anything, it all appears onscreen just as fast. Activity Monitor says Safari is using 41MB of real memory and 168MB of virtual, and runs 6 threads.

    Surfing is a bit slower than it used to be, but no beachballs thank god. I haven't repaired permissions, but I'll do it if this problem starts again.

    At this point Safari is still slightly faster than FF, which I've downloaded and maybe used 3 times in the past 2 weeks. I just prefer Safari :)
     
  6. 2nyRiggz macrumors 603

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    i concur, try rebooting...my your mem is being sucked away


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  7. kwajaln macrumors 6502

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    I think Mr. Jobs is punishing you for using "Wazzup" on a site dedicated to his products. Did not typing "What's up" really save you that much time? :rolleyes:
     
  8. OldCorpse thread starter macrumors 65816

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    Fo shizzle it did! An I wouldn't have, 'cept Safari went all squirrely on lil ol' me :D
     
  9. mkrishnan Moderator emeritus

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    My Safari has very recently started doing this. It's frustrating. Usually resetting Safari or closing it and re-opening it will remedy this for some time. But I have no idea why it started happening.... :(
     
  10. jblock macrumors regular

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    I find emptying the cache now and then (through the Safari menu item) does wonders for Safari's performance.
     
  11. 2nyRiggz macrumors 603

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    Hey, safari is pulling this crap on me now...what the hell! im pissed


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  12. mkrishnan Moderator emeritus

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    Reset Safari does this, and several other things. The thing is... (if the OP is seeing the same thing I'm seeing, and I think so) that it helps, but only for a day or two? Hmmm.... You shouldn't have to empty cache on a daily basis.
     
  13. 2nyRiggz macrumors 603

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    i empty mines and the cookies everynight. im typing this on a pc because i couldnt get through to safari..

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  14. jaykk macrumors 6502a

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    Same problem here

    I had the same problem here, i tried everything - emptty cache, deleted all preference etc..no luck. Then I created a new user, and safari works superfast in that user. The problem is with preference ( or some files in user Library folder), I didn't research much. Basically, now safari works as fast as a brand new installation.
     
  15. mkrishnan Moderator emeritus

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    Yes, I think you're definitely right, that this has something to do with an a awry or corrupt preference file / setting.

    I periodically switch to FF and then eventually something about FF pisses me off and I switch back. :(
     
  16. OldCorpse thread starter macrumors 65816

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    Yes, this is correct. It helps to reboot, clean out cache etc. but while it helps substantiallly, it doesn't get it to the old blazing speed (for that, I guess, according to the other poster, you need to create a new user, and then Safari is as good as new... which would indicate a permissions and/or pref issues, no?). In my experience, Safari slowly detariorates within a day or two, and then it's time to re-boot and clean out the cache to make it usable again. Doesn't seem normal to me, or at least not optimal... maybe 10.4.4 will fix that?
     
  17. 2nyRiggz macrumors 603

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    well its working real good right now but tomorrow it might act up again. it sucks


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  18. mkrishnan Moderator emeritus

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    A lot of times, it seems something that has to do with corrupted library files will sort of get incidentally fixed in the process of installing a new dot upgrade. Or something that isn't corrupted will get accidentally broken. :rolleyes: I think this is why we saw, for instance, some people have sleep issues on their macs with 10.3.7, which were fixed in 10.3.8, and others had great performance in 10.3.7, and started getting the same issues which were fixed on the other peoples' computers, in 10.3.8.

    Hopefully ours'll get fixed! :eek: ;) :D
     
  19. 2nyRiggz macrumors 603

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    ive notice when my safari stop freaking out i got a recover file in my trash.

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  20. mad jew Moderator emeritus

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    That's not just when you restart? :)
     
  21. 2nyRiggz macrumors 603

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    yea after i wanted to strangle safari for not responding i restarted the machine then it was there. safari worked after that.


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  22. jaykk macrumors 6502a

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    how about backing up Library Folder

    I am going to backup Library folder for a few days (the important folder ApplicationSupport, it stores addressbook etc). If there is a Safari slowdown, i am going to restore from backup. Do you think it will work instead of creating a new user each time?
     
  23. simon-says macrumors regular

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    My Safari is horrible. I just closed it, it was using 350 MB of Real Memory and 3GB (yes, 3GB!) of Virtual Memory. I can't play flash games at all, they all run so freaking slow even after a reboot.
     

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