Saw an ad on lowendmac for Macbook Pro's starting at $1179, probably the first ad I've ever clicked online. It took me to http://www.wegenermedia.com/, and they seem to sell lots of refurbished systems. The Macbook Pro's seem to be 1st Revision, and the only Intels they have that I can see, don't see any G5's either, it's mostly older G4 stuff, and all good prices. I did a quick google search and found a fair amount of complaining about processor upgrades from them for PowerPC systems, and various other replacement parts, and the customer service in general. I didn't find any stories of ordering refurbished systems as a whole, ONLY stories about ordering parts & upgrades. Anyone dealt with them before, especially buying a full system? The power in a Rev A MBP is fine for me, and you can't beat the price. If I can be certain that I'll at least get the computer, I'd be willing to take a chance on these guys, since "deals" are hard to find on Macs.