I said in my last thread like this one, that I was starting to have problems with the war. Now, that being said, first let me clearly state that I do believe there were WMD's there, and everyone here knows why I feel that way. Second. I do think that going in was the right thing to do for the Iraqi people. Most of you know, that was one of the major reasons that I supported the war was for their benefit. Third. I have met many Iraqi's in my day, and that was the reason that I wanted us in, and everything else was second. Now, let me also clearly say that I do not believe at any level that we are in a quagmire. Desert, you were around in Nam, you know what a quagmire is. BUT, I do think that the administration is really screwing things up. I think that there are serious problems in the administration. I don't believe that Bush is the devil, in fact, I really think that the guy thinks that he is doing the right thing, and that the larger goal that he has is a good goal. BUT, I think his advisors are really giving him bad info, I think that they are lying to each other, and to the people. Personally, I think that the world needs to get involved, and quickly. We are killing our own country to rebuild another. Nation building has really never been done to completion, other than Germany. AND that was a world effort, albeit that 1/2 of it turned out rather badly for quite a while. I don't want this to turn into a bashing of the President. As I have said, I think his intentions are nobel. However, things are not getting better there until I see a definitive exit strategy formulated, and I have not seen that. I am actually sad at both parties. The Republicans for thinking that the media lies about everything, and that Bush is 100% right. And the Democrats for taking personal attacks at the President for political gain. Personally, I am sick of the entire thing. Our foriegn policy has sucked for quite a while now, and it isn't getting any better as best as I can tell. Hopefully that will change.