We're in the future.

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  1. coopdog macrumors 6502a

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    Does it seem like we are in the "future" or at least how old movies and books made it out to be? While playing with my new cell phone that uses invisible waves to call almost anyone in the world instantly and watching those annoying drug commercials that can cure every little thing wrong with the human body and IMing people around the world instantly on my computer that if I brought back to the 70's or 80's would make me a billionaire, It seems to me that we are kind of in the "future" right now. Maybe I'm just in some weird drug induced state and I think everything is so futureistic, but what do you think?

    It's amazing to think what technology will be like in the real future. If there is a rising level of chaos in the world like terrorism, or some gobal disaster we might go nowhere. If you really think about it we are still so basic. The universe, time and space go on infinitely. The farthest thing we have seen is a star 13 billion light years away. Even traveling at the speed of light which many think is the fastest speed possible it would take 13 billion years to reach it. And that’s just what we can see. We haven't even landed a man on another planet yet, even one so close as Mars. It's all just hard to wrap your mind around. The Big Bang is supposed to be expanding in all directions forever. Who knows, there could be millions or even a number so high it hasn't been invented yet of other earths. With billions and billions of people or creatures wondering just like us if there "is another earth out there."

    My Grandfather, a General in the Airforce, that dealt later with space missions always talked about space. I would always ask about UFO's and the such. He was under the highest level of TOP SECRET you can be so I couldn't get much info out of him. But when I asked he always kind of hinted that there was the chance that the US knew something about them. He also brought up even traveling at the speed of light that if there were other planets with technology that advanced that it would take so long to reach earth and no living organism would be able to survive that long. I wonder what kind of interesting Top Secret information he took to the grave.

    Not having any religion really makes it hard to think, what created all of this, why are we here? There has to be something outside of space and everthing we know, outside of the big bang. It would be nice if God and religion was real and right, it just answers so many questions.

    What is your take on pretty much EVERYTHING?
     
  2. question fear macrumors 68020

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    did you have the same sangria i did last night, because i defintiely babbled about this for a while.

    i think its interesting to think we're closer to what science fiction thought the future would be but i dont think we'll ever be able to claim we're just like tha.t..i think it would blow too many minds.

    its like how 22 is old untily ou are 22, etc.

    -carly
     
  3. topicolo macrumors 68000

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    Don't go there dude... I'm not about to acknowledge my own mortality anytime soon. :p
     
  4. MoparShaha macrumors 68000

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    I totally feel you coopdog. All those questions and more are constantly running through my mind. Often, I can't even fall asleep at night. Makes me wish god would pat me on the back and say, "it's alright".
     
  5. trebblekicked macrumors 6502a

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    started my thought

    i had a futuregeek moment the other night.

    do wireless video conferencing and you will be convinced that, as waring t hudsucker insisted, the future is now.

    we used my ti and our wireless network to let our cast member in pittsburgh watch rehearsal. the only cable was the firewire going into my viewcam. yet there he was and there we are, and he could watch a sketch and that was that. absolutely mind blowing.

    that deals with the part of the thread i have any authority to speak on whatsoever. as for the metaphysics...yr guess is as good as mine. i lose some sleep to it from time to time, but i wouldn't want to live in a world where nothing is elusive. how much fun is it to use the invincible code in a video game (GTA aside;)) in my mind, it's these questions that led to the great achievements of our civilization: literature, religion, science, art, music, sensibility, and of course wireless videoconferencing.
     
  6. aricher macrumors 68020

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    Coopdog - you're right in the sense that technologically-wise life fee very "futuristic" right now. At the same time though we humans are still the same weak (physiclally and morally) that we have been for centuries. To me what's facinating (and I'll try to not be longwinded here) is where is all of this computer technology going in the next decade. Ah, so many theories so little time.

    As Moore's law reaches it inevitable conclusion we will see the departure of silicon-based chips. The "future" at that point will most likely be some form of electro-organic quantum computation. Many authors have digressed at great length about the "convergence" of man and machine. This plays into borderline postmodern theories as well. I can see this becoming a reality with advances in nanotechnology becoming a reality - leading towards great leaps in human lifespan and potental "good," and "bad" uses.

    Some theorists claim that quantum computing will unlock multi-dimensional travel. They claim that at the pinnical of Moore's law that someone will, with the computational assistance of machines invent a time machine and that tghe reason we haven't seen a time machine yet is that you can only travel back as far as when the first machine was first launched. These theorists claim that at the launch of this machine thousands of other time travelers will show up - travelers from parallel yet different universes. The scary part of this theory is that because each action in any timeline causes changes to that timeline - every action can cascade and create a multipicity of universes essentially creating in an instant a non-linear timeline based universe. This also falls into other "mystic" theology of the Mayan theory of the Period of "No Time." According to the Mayan calendar we are currently living in the period translated as "No Time," when all life is in a massive state of flux. At the end of this period, the Mayan calendar ends - approx. 2012-15 - Mayn historians claim that it is at this point that humans will have gone through a hugh change and that the mere concept time will no longer be relevant. Any way you look at it - it's going to be an interesting ride in the next couple of decades.

    Let's be realistic here though - while anything SEEMS possible with technological advances the percentage of people on this planet with computers, let alone electricity, running water, telephones, etc. is VERY slim. We all need to step back and look at the global picture - not evryone is up to our technolgical par and it will be interesting to see how this balance changes in the next decade or so.

    As far as spirituality, physiological chemical balance and technolgy goes there's a great, well researched book called "Rational Mysticism" by John Horgan (former senior writer for Scientific American). He interviews ALL kinds of people - scientists, computer gurus, psychologists, parapsycholgists, religious mystics, psychedelic gurus, etc. and discusses their theories on Technolgy, Theology, Brain Chemistry, etc - Fascinating book here.

    Anyway, yes life can be overwhelming but it's always interesting. As far as my life is concerned I don't know if I could separate easily from technology - the Mac has changed my life in such a profound way that it has integrated (along with the cell, wireless, etc etc etc) into my life in such a way that I am not sure if I could pry myself away from it all. Enough babbling for now...
     
  7. Thomas Veil macrumors 68020

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    Flying cars! So where are the flying cars?? And the moonbases???
     
  8. Mr. Anderson Moderator emeritus

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    Sorry, but there still aren't any flying cars (and I'm not referring to Back to the Future movies here :D).

    In all of the future scenarios in the beginning part of the 20th century, flying cars were the killer app. That's not going to happen for a very long time.

    As always, yesterdays scifi has become a hit and miss for todays reality. Along with things no one ever imagined as being so important - the internet.

    One thing that we do know today, in my opinion, is that more people can imagine more accurately what we will see in our future. Its less scifi and more figuring out how to do things cheaply and effectively. The potential for so much is there, we just haven't made it possible yet.

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  9. MongoTheGeek macrumors 68040

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    The problem is the *#$*@#% FAA. They have them that should be price compatible and as fuel efficient as an SUV
     
  10. mgargan1 macrumors 65816

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    I was actually thinking about this the other day...

    as for God, and the Big Bang...

    if you read Angels and Demons by Dan Brown, a lot of more questions will arise. Since everything in this universe is made up of opposites... (positive charges-negative charges, day-night, light-dark, etc...) there's matter-antimatter. Antimatter is fact, and is being created as we type. But what's amazing about anti-matter is that when it's created, more antimatter is created than the amount of matter than was used to create it. I dunno if this makes any sense... but if this is true, then that means our laws of conservation of mass and energy do not hold up. Think about it, God made all these laws. That is His language, physics, and he can do whatever He wants with them.

    We're all just a bunch of slow moving energy... like Einstein said, E=MC^2... so mass equals (energy)/(speed of light^2)... all we are is very very slow moving energy. So Imagine what would happen if we were to move at the speed of light, would we just become pure energy?

    When you seperate an atom, the mass of the individual parts are off less mass then when they were together, but the produce a lot of energy... and this energy doesn't come from anywhere, it's created... so the laws of conservation of mass and energy are easily broken...

    "Knibb High Football Rules...!" (Billy Madison)
     
  11. GorillaPaws macrumors 6502a

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    flying cars = bad idea

    I used to think flying cars would be really cool when I was a kid. But when you think about how many HORRIBLE drivers are out there, It makes you realize that it would be infinitly worse if they were in the air. I mean seriously, how crappy would it be if someone crashed through your roof donnie darko style. I guess when they do come out, they'll be autopioleted and all, but I would hope they have some form of OSX running those bad-boys cause getting the blue screen of death at 5,000ft wouldn't be cool.
     
  12. Roger1 macrumors 65816

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    I've seen the way people drive SUV's. I would DEFINATELY not want most of them flying, especially if I'm under them. :eek:
     
  13. MongoTheGeek macrumors 68040

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    Well with GPS and fly by wire by you give a destination and it can go. It would be George Jeston by a mile and a half.
     
  14. agreenster macrumors 68000

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    Its not FLYING cars that I want to see, but HOVER cars....that would help to eliminate deaths due to hazardous to road conditions. (snow, ice, rain, etc) Just float me about a foot or two, and I'll be set! I HATE driving in the snow.

    But were not all that futuristic yet. Cancer hasnt been cured. Aids hasnt been cured. Alzheimers hasnt been cured. I could go on and on. it seems like most of the time and resources is spent on designer drugs (pharm companies researching for viagra and the like) and not researching the big killers. We live in a society of live poor, take drugs to fix it mentalities. Our heart problems wouldbe nill if we ate and lived better. No one would need to spend time making Lipitor.

    Anyway, just my soap box. These diseases need to be cured!
     
  15. Mr. Anderson Moderator emeritus

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    Well, next time you get a chance, take a hover craft (they make personal ones) out for a spin. They are extremely difficult to manouver. You float a car off the ground and you significantly reduce the coefficient of friction so its not like driving on snow all the time, but driving on ice with steel wheels! :D

    As for flying cars and bad driving - when they do happen, intelligent navigation systems will allow you to go on autopilot, select a destination and have it get you there at the touch of the button. We'll probably see things like that in cars eventually as well. Especially on the interstates.


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  16. agreenster macrumors 68000

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    Hey, I dont claim to know how to drive one of these future cars, much less how they would work. But I assume that if a company were to develop a hovering car, it would be required to conform to some level of maneuverability...making the matter worse would be a bit ass backward.
     
  17. Mr. Anderson Moderator emeritus

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    exactly, and the technology isn't exactly there for hover cars yet. They'd be way too dangerous. There has been some work done on ducted fan cars/aircraft - but that is still in development. That and the FAA doesn't like them enough to give licenses out. If we do eventually have flying/hover cars, everyone who drives them will have to have a pilots license.

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  18. agreenster macrumors 68000

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    Well, I still think we're closer to those than flying cars. I never insinuated that we HAD the technology, I just thought that by now we would...
     
  19. oldschool macrumors 65816

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    While we have many great advancements, it seems quite forced, and temporary...like everything could fall apart in an instant.

    Look at antibiotics, in ten years we may have strains of bacteria that we cannot kill with even the strongest medicines.

    A new class of antibiotic hasn't been developed in years.
     

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