Were you born that way or did you choose it? (Your political positions)

Discussion in 'Politics, Religion, Social Issues' started by Neserk, Jul 15, 2004.

  1. Neserk macrumors 6502a


    Jan 1, 2004
    This should be an interesting discussion.

    Who was born into a Conservative, Moderate, Liberal, Republican, Democrat, etc. Family and who made the choice as an adult to go different way than their parents/Family of Origin?

    Feel free to share your stories.
  2. stoid macrumors 601


    Feb 17, 2002
    So long, and thanks for all the fish!
    My parents are incredibly conservative. I am far from liberal, maybe not even moderate. At least my dad has an open mind and is willing to accept that not everyone HAS to think like he does. I guess I'm more along those lines. I stand up to be counted with the conservative moderates, but I try to respect views radically different from my own.

    We aren't really a political family, and our Lutheran faith tends to be the guiding rule in our life.
  3. blackfox macrumors 65816


    Feb 18, 2003

    Both of my parents are die-hard Republicans.

    Dad Voted for Thatcher in UK, would've for Reagan if he was able to...Voted for Both Bush's, hate Clinton, still love GW. Watch only FOX News, ingest it all as fact...they are perhaps too old to realize you cannot always believe what is on TV as fact.

    In the house, I am a "communist", and avoid any Political discussion as tempers quickly flare and reason is often quickly abandoned (by them).

    Still, they are true conservatives, and can be admired for that, although they are hoodwinked into believing that people like GW and DeLay represent those positions...basically, they are nice, caring people.
  4. Stelliform macrumors 68000


    Oct 21, 2002
    I have the same political views as my parents. But my Dad and I are for better or for worse carbon copies of each other. (no matter how much my mind repels that notion, we really are exact copies. We even look very much alike. (minus the 30 year age differences.)

    When I was younger I was more liberal, but not much. I didn't voice any political opinion until I was older.
  5. jayb2000 macrumors 6502a


    Apr 18, 2003
    RI -> CA -> ME
    Mixed Family

    My Dad has gotten crankeir and more 'conservative' as he has gotten older.
    I put it in quotes because he used to be a Republican, like Roosevelt and Nixon were, but now he mostly listens to Rush and Fox and refuses to read anything that wavers from the pary line. He brought me up to always double check sources and the "lies, damn lies, and statistics" quote.

    My mom was always conservative Democrat, but with me and my brother's out of the house, she does not get to hear any independent news, because of my Dad.

    My oldest brother is radical liberal conspiracy theorist. I have a pictures of him scaling a fence at a nuclear power plant in the 70's during a protest.

    My older brother is a neo-con/fox junkie who just doesn't get it.

    Me? Card carrying member of Libertarian and Democratic Parties, plus ACLU and some others.
    I think we should get the government out our our personal lives and our wallets as much as possible, while still retaining critical services and national parks. I am currently reading Perfectly Legal and it's frightening. Republican, Democrat, Liberal, Conservative, etc. I think everyone should read this book and see what the tax system has become.
    I think every civil contract between two people shouild be a Civil Union, and Marriages should be left to churches.
    I think all drugs should be legalized and heavily regulated and taxed, like alchohol.
    I think guns should be as legal or more than the currently are.
    I think all welfare should be workfare.
    I think taxes should be progressive so we live in a meritocracy and not an autocracy.

    I could keep going, but I hope thats pretty clear. I have been pretty consistent in those beliefs since high school - going on 16 years. I keep reading tracts and papers from many sources, but I find the ones that promote social liberalism and fiscal conservatism are the ones I agree with most.

    Feel free to argue, I like reasoned debates! :D
  6. CubaTBird macrumors 68020

    Apr 18, 2004
    Look guys

    I agree with chris rock on this "anyone who makes up their mind without listening to the issue is a FOOL". Me, some things im conservative about and other things im liberal. Who do I choose as my presidential canidate? Well I would like Nadar b/c of a lot of the stuff he did in the 70's/80's in terms of public service and movements. He actually got a lot of the things he wanted done accomplished, like getting the juice percentage mandatory on all juice products in 1988.
  7. Waluigi macrumors 6502

    Apr 29, 2003
    My parents are democrats. When I registered to vote, I decided to go independent.

  8. Sayhey macrumors 68000


    May 22, 2003
    San Francisco
    Grew up from the age of 4 in a one parent family (Dad died leaving mom with 5 kids.) She was and is a Nixonian Republican. I registered as "decline to state" aka an independent in my first election. Partly that was because of Democrats like LBJ and the Vietnam War. When Jesse Jackson ran I registered as a Democrat and have been one ever since, although sometimes with one foot out the door. For my generation this scenario is not uncommon. The Civil Rights movement, Anti-War movement, etc. radicalized a lot of the sons and daughters of very conservative people. I have learned over the years how to talk to my mother about politics without it ending with her accusing me of all kinds of unpatriotic things, but mostly we just talk about family.
  9. IJ Reilly macrumors P6

    IJ Reilly

    Jul 16, 2002
    Both of my parents grew up in working-class families in Depression New York City. Naturally they were New Deal Democrats. My mother died over ten years ago. She was always the more politically attuned and liberal of the two, so I probably picked up my interest in current events from her. My father flirted with Newt and Rush during the mid-90s, but now nearly every time I talk to him, he starts on some sort of rant about Bush. It's getting so I hate to sit and read a newspaper with him. My older brother get incensed about the state of the world once in a great while, but I don't honestly know if he's ever been registered to vote. You know the type (sorry, but he is my brother).

    My Dad still insists that I'm missing out on something by not being a member of a political party. I'm sure when he was coming of age, everybody was, so it must seem strange to him that I'm politically aware, but still not interested in parties.
  10. mactastic macrumors 68040


    Apr 24, 2003
    When I was younger and angrier I was much more conservative. Then I swung the other way, and was quasi-hippy-ish (only I still didn't mind getting into fights oddly enough). I realized I was just as angry, dealing with monkey-wrenchers and SHARPS was no way to hold the moral high ground. As I became older and mellower (and hopefully a little wiser) I've settled into a much more moderate leftist position.

    Today I design houses and deal with all the red-tape and BS from the left and the right as it relates to housing issues. The left doesn't want to hurt the banded dune snail, and the right doesn't want to listen to any land use regulation that interferes with their private property. I've learned that it's not always appropriate to get into political discussions (I was never one to back down from a provocative comment before) and I've learned to tolerate and respect the position of people who are quite the opposite from me.

    Interestingly enough, my parents are lifelong Democrats while my wife's parents are lifelong Republicans. They both think I'm the devil, because I've always got criticisms for each of them and their dogmatic world view. Not so much my Dad, but the others are so narrow minded and convinced that their 'team' is right and the other's is wrong and evil. I keep telling them if they're not outraged by their chosen party, they aren't paying attention.
  11. Durandal7 macrumors 68040

    Feb 24, 2001
    My parents are moderate independents, they have voted for McGovern, Carter, Reagan, Clinton and GWB among others. I ended up a conservative Republican while my brother winded up being a liberal Democrat.

    As a result I have learned to cope and debate quite well with Democrats and Liberals instead of resorting to name-calling. ;)
  12. Backtothemac macrumors 601


    Jan 3, 2002
    San Destin Florida
    Parents were southern democrats. Meaning they voted democrat for everything local, and republican for president.
  13. takao macrumors 68040


    Dec 25, 2003
    Dornbirn (Austria)
    hmm my father is i guess pending between social-democrats and conservatives (he grew up in a very catholic family)

    my mother is like someone else said it nicely "the communist of the family" ;) i guess she is voting social democratic..

    but i didn't noticed much about my parents politic attitude untill i was 16-17 before politics were something not really talked about... who you actually vote is still not talked about

    personally i vote for the greens (which makes me perhaps a "ultra-left-commie-tree-hugger" when i look at the american democrats and republicans ;) )

    edit: and at the moment i am listening to that song which makes me even more ultra left :rolleyes:
  14. skunk macrumors G4


    Jun 29, 2002
    Republic of Ukistan
    Cheerful little number, that... :(
  15. Krizoitz macrumors 6502a


    Apr 26, 2003
    Wakayama, Japan
    Oddly enough we never really discussed politics in my house. It wasn't avoided or anything, it just rarely came up. My parents are fairly moderate, leaning to one side or another slightly depending on the issue. I pretty much turned out the same way. Mostly my conservative leanings are only on abortion actually, and thats because of my religious beliefs rather than anything directly political.
  16. jelloshotsrule macrumors G3


    Feb 7, 2002
    my parents are conservative, somewhat

    my mom is super super religious (catholic) and votes by abortion almost solely (though she may support nader, rather than bush/kerry)...

    my dad is retired army.. he's pretty selfish with his money (in the great sense, though incredibly generous with it on a personal level). so all in all he leans republican. but at the same time, he drives a prius, is against star wars, etc...

    myself and 3 older brothers are all fairly progressive. with me probably being the most socialist. as seen by my nader support/work. hah
  17. mischief macrumors 68030


    Aug 1, 2001
    Santa Cruz Ca
    I was born to a Canadian mother and a Liberal Democrat father. I spent my childhood in Canada and the rest in the SF Bay area.

    I have developped a version of quasi-conservative liberalism that makes more conventional policy wonks bleed from the ears. I believe that the Constitution of this country and secondarily the State Constitutions are the only Laws that count. Everything else is Tort and it's about damn time to start cleaning house. There are FAR too many laws, procedures, policies and agencies that fall well outside of Constitutional mandate.
  18. Desertrat macrumors newbie

    Jul 4, 2003
    Terlingua, Texas
    I guess I'm all over the place; depends on the issue. I'm more of a fiscal conservative than a political conservative. My main arena of argument with today's liberals, generally, has to do with the methods, not the goals.

    I'm anti-Statist, I guess by nature. In a way libertarian but not "A Libertarian". I've always been pretty much a quiet rebel, not having a lot of use for "authority"--but I tend not to want to butt heads with TPTB.

    Most of my views sorta just happened, accumulating from my years of experience and observation. "Jus' growed like Topsy."

    My family background was much like most of the South: Vote Democrat, talk conservative.


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