Check this out! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5853067920 This is a dual 2.7ghz Powermac with nothing in it except the case, motherboard and cpu and it sold for $1944 with $29 shipping. You can get this same machine from the apple store for $2149 refurbished with one year warranty and it comes with keyboard, mouse, power cord, box, ram, hard drive, superdrive, video card and peace of mind. Ebayers never stop to amaze me. This makes the refurb very attractive.