What do you want for Fitzmas?

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  1. atszyman macrumors 68020

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    Kept hearing yesterday being referred to as Fitzmas Eve on the radio last night. So I thought it might be interesting to see what people think/hope will happen today if Fitzgerald starts with indictments?

    It's almost certain that Rove and Libby are going to get indicted for something. I would love to see it get up to Cheney. As for the unlikely it would be very nice to see it get to Cheney and also pull in Rumsfeld with some smoking gun conspiracy evidence. I wouldn't mind seeing it somehow pushing for impeachment but am a bit scared of who might end up leading if Bush and Cheney both get booted.
     
  2. mactastic macrumors 68040

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    Five gooooolden indictments,
    Four singing canaries,
    Three different charges,
    Two resignations
    And a pardon in a pear tree.
     
  3. Thomas Veil macrumors 68020

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    :p Good one, mactastic.

    Ideally, I want to see Libby, Rove and Cheney indicted. Libby, I understand, may have cooperated with Fitzgerald's office and would probably earn a reduced charge.

    I'd love it if Bush came under scrutiny too. (Lots of people are asking, how could Bush have not been involved when he's in such close daily contact with Rove?)
     
  4. mactastic macrumors 68040

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    Well I wouldn't count on Cheney being indicted. Unless there is some serious coroboration that Cheney gave Plame's name to Libby with instructions to disseminate it publicly I haven't seem much else that would earn Cheney an indictment. Unless he perjured himself in front of Fitzgerald, but that's not really clear.

    I also wouldn't count on Libby getting off easy. He appears to be the lynchpin in this whole affair, being Rove's source and all.

    What is important however, is that Cheney and Bush both lied to the American people. That much is obvious. And after all the years the GOP spent convincing people that lying is a Very Serious Thing, they now have to go back and convince all the faithful that lying really isn't so serious after all.
     
  5. katchow macrumors 6502

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    It is? I've heard it said in the same breath as "Fitz holds his cards very close to his chest".

    I just don't want to be dissapointed when Santa doesn't deliver.
     
  6. zimv20 macrumors 601

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    deck the halls w/ fitz indictments
    ro ro ro ro ro ro ro ro rove
    wall street could do with some excitement
    ro ro ro ro ro ro ro ro rove
    line 'em up in the rose garden
    ro ro ro ro ro ro ro ro rove
    so that bush can issue pardons
    ro ro ro ro ro ro ro ro rove
     
  7. 3rdpath macrumors 68000

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    I'm thinking Libby is a sure bet with Rove being almost a sure thing. Cheney's gonna be harder to prove so he'll probably just be publically admonished during the trials for being the sleaze that he is.

    If this was really a Fitzmas come true, I'd see Novak and Miller indicted for being malicious scumsucking pawns of the GOP.

    And they'd all be shipped off to Abu Ghraib...it's gotta be a nice place now that those bad apples are gone...:rolleyes:
     
  8. zimv20 macrumors 601

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    you better watch out
    you always deny
    you're under oath and better not lie
    patrick fitzgerald is coming to town

    he's making a list to see who's involved
    the plame leak case won't go unsolved
    patrick fitzgerald is coming to town

    he knows when you made phone calls
    he's looking at your notes
    he's done a thousand interviews
    and recorded all the quotes

    so you better watch out
    you better not lie
    you'll be indicted in a blink of the eye
    patrick fitzgerald is coming to town

    patrick fitzgerald is coming to town
     
  9. IJ Reilly macrumors P6

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    You guys are such a bunch of lyrical fools. ;)

    Okay, I can't resist...

    Cheney bails, Cheney bails
    It's Fitzmas time in the city
    Ding-a-lings, hear them sing
    Soon it will be Fitzmas Day

    City jail cells, busy jail cells
    Dressed in prison style
    In the air
    There's a feeling of Fitzmas

    Dems are laughing
    Rove is passing
    Answering charge after charge
    And on every blog you will hear

    Cheney bails, Cheney bails
    It's Fitzmas time in the city
    Ding-a-lings, hear them sing
    Soon it will be Fitzmas Day
     
  10. atszyman thread starter macrumors 68020

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    I could be completely wrong about it, but I'm fairly confident that they will be indicted on perjury or obstruction charges if nothing else.

    hmmm.... based on the thread response so far maybe we should start marketing a Fitzmas Carol album. We could get Katie to play viola.... might even help with the funds for her Vienna trip :D
     
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  12. atszyman thread starter macrumors 68020

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    Which two?
     
  13. IJ Reilly macrumors P6

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    All three of us two, I believe.
     
  14. atszyman thread starter macrumors 68020

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    I assumed it was the lyricists in the thread, which at last count we had three with 4 different carols. Two more and we can start side A of the album....
     
  15. jelloshotsrule macrumors G3

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    ok, all 3. i'd forgotten it was mactastic who posted the original lyric.

    i assume we can release this "fitzmas carols" compilation via the itms?
     
  16. Thomas Veil macrumors 68020

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    Okay, let me try my hand at this:

    Arrest these crooked gentlemen
    Let nothing you delay.
    Remember they're the traitors
    Who outed Valerie Plame.
    And now they're in a panic
    Wanting to avoid the blame.
    O tidings of firings and jail,
    Firing and jail.
    O tidings of firings and jail!


    :D
     
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    My kid can play clarinet on the album. He's not very good yet, and his reed is cracked, but it would be good experience for him. :)
     
  20. Thomas Veil macrumors 68020

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    That can be very painful.
     
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    Amen. Like, really. I'd love to see the "Republican Machine" crumble. I can't wait to hear Santorum's speech about how this is the start of us being "damned to hell" and the fall of "family values".

    Cheney the red faced liar
    Told a very sorry tale
    And if you ever heard it
    You would even think so too

    Fitzgerald will go get him
    And Ro-o-ve and Lib-by
    Thi-i-s is quite a scandal
    Poor Val-er-ie Plame!

    On one cloudy Thursday night
    Fitzy's gonna say
    Karl with your nose so long
    Won't you make my license plate

    Then all the people loved him
    And they shouted out with glee
    Fitzy the honest lawyer
    You'll go down in history!
     
  22. Mike Teezie macrumors 68020

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    All I want for Fitzmas is to be able to post a Hooray! Cheney/Rove indicted thread.
     
  23. jelloshotsrule macrumors G3

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    there's an oxymoron! ;) :rolleyes:
     
  24. patrick0brien macrumors 68040

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    According to the way the law is written, it is illegal to "Intentionally" release the identity of an active undercover operative.

    I'm worried that that wording is the loophole these guys need to wiggle out from this. I do personally believe that Plame was outed in political retaliation, but we've all seen this administration's knack for sneakyness.

    It'll be interesting to see what happens.
     
  25. atszyman thread starter macrumors 68020

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    And that's exactly the loophole they will use to avoid that sticky law. If indeed Libby learned of Wilson's (she prefers to go by her married name if I recall correctly the media latched onto her maiden name) status from Cheney, that is entirely legal since both have the necessary clearance. If Cheney forgot to mention that she's undercover then Libby mentions it to the press, Libby did not do it knowingly and he and Cheney get off scott free. This really does suck since if this is the course of events then I'm sure that there was a wink, wink, nudge, nudge associated with the whole mess to achieve the desired results. The only problem is trying to prove that everything was done intentionally, which is not likely to happen.
     

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