What is the deal with seagate hd's?

Discussion in 'Mac Pro' started by trogdor!, Nov 20, 2006.

  1. trogdor! macrumors regular

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    Ok, I keep hearing odd reports of certain configurations and different models of seagate hard drives having problems. More specifically the new 7200.10 series. Is this just with the mac pro or all computers having mixed reports and performance with these drives? Is this why these drives have been going so cheap lately? Is this a firmware issue? I used to think Seagates were great drives, but im starting to ? the new sata drive from them. help?
     
  2. TheFuzz macrumors regular

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    i have a 7200.10 320gb drive from them and haven't had any problems.
     
  3. zero2dash macrumors 6502a

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    Ditto for me.
    I have the same drive and have had no problems.
     
  4. Demon Hunter macrumors 68020

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    Which models, specifically?
     
  5. slughead macrumors 68030

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    I heard that if you put 4 x 750's in a mac pro you can't RAID them

    But then they fixed that.
     
  6. SMM macrumors 65816

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    I have had 4 Seagate failures since June. One was a SATA (failed almost immediately), the other three were SCSI e320. They were ~ 2 years old.
     
  7. trogdor! thread starter macrumors regular

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    Yah, one report was about the raid setup of 4 seagate sata's in the mac pro with performance that was terrible. It sounded like that was fixed though with a firmware update if im not mistaken.

    http://barefeats.com/quad08.html

    This report also reported some odd performance issues with seagates I saw recently. Maybe im just thinking too far into things, but just wanted to see what other people have read or reported.
     
  8. THX1139 macrumors 68000

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    There is supposedly a limitation of a maximum 40MB/S. Sorry don't have the link, but there's a thread on this issue on the Apple forums. Supposedly Seagate has acknowledged the problem and meanwhile everyone is waiting on a driver update. It was enough for me to decide to go with Western Digital instead.

    If you have the 7200.10 Seagate and haven't noticed, then it's probably because you aren't pushing your drive. For everyday use, the transfer limitation is a moot issue. Get into some disk instensive tasks and you might notice the bottleneck.
     
  9. speakerwizard macrumors 68000

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    off topic but wasnt it seagate that killed amstrad, causing a massive recall?
     
  10. THX1139 macrumors 68000

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    I think all drive manufactures have this problem. It's inheritant to the technology and how the drives are mass produced. Do a search on the web and you will find drive failure complaints about all of the major brands. I think it's a case were competition is not good. Sure, we get new technology, but all of the companies are racing to put out the next best fastest drive without focussing on making the technology more stable/reliable. What would you rather have... long lasting or fast and cheap? I think I'll go with fast and cheap. Until they can come up with high capacity flash drives that eliminate the moving parts, we are going to continue dealing with drive failure. Best to plan accordingly and buy extra drives and do lots of backing up.

    Least we are getting decent prices now. I just bought a 500 GB Sata ll for $175, which comes out to less than a penny per megabyte. Less than a decade ago, drives were selling for around a dime a MB and they weren't as fast. I'll let you do the math.
     
  11. SMM macrumors 65816

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    Sure, you are exactly correct. Seagate has been above average in reliability for a number of years now. I cannot think of anyone being any better, but some have been worse. I also recall a time when Seagate was really having quality issues and had a sinister reputation. I recently heard that almost all of the SCSI drives are just relabeled Seagates. Cannot say if that is absolutely true, but it may be. Only point I want to make is that the technology is far from perfect, and no manufacturer is defect free (as some have suggested on other threads).
     
  12. jwdawso macrumors regular

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    Seagate 7200.10 fine now

    Checkout http://www.barefeats.com/quick.html - about half down on Sept 15, the problem has been taken care of.
     

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