What is up with all the junk mail!!!

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  1. G4scott macrumors 68020

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    I know that there are lots of viruses and crap going around, but I've been getting an average of 5 junk e-mails an hour for the last week or so...

    Is this because of one of those viruses that gathers e-mails from people's computers has gotten my e-mail, and screwed me over or what?

    I'm also getting tons of "mail undeliverable" e-mails because so many junk e-mails are being spoofed with my address...

    IT PISSES ME OFF

    And do you know who is behind all of this?

    MICROSOFT!!!

    Those f*cking bastards can't even write decent software to save their pocketbooks (much less their lives), and now I'm having to SUFFER because of THEIR MISTAKES!!!

    Isn't there an FCC regulation somewhere saying something about harmful interference? Well, I'm getting tons of 'interference' in my inbox, and it's pissing me off.

    Anybody want to start a lawsuit against microsux because they allowed information about me on other people's computers to be exploited in creating and receiving junk e-mail?

    I'm serious. This is ridiculous. I really hope this comes around to bite microsoft in the ass. But they're probably going to lock up the people who created the viruses, and allow microsoft to continue making crappy software...

    I mean really, if a car company screws up and their cars run off the road and hurt other people, they get in trouble. So, why is microsoft allowed to make products that harm people that don't even own microsoft products?

    And I would use Mail's junk mail filter to automatically delete stuff, but I don't trust it, because it might delete something important...

    Stupid billy gates. WHY THE HELL DON'T YOU FIX YOUR SOFTWARE AND STOP MAKING SO MUCH MONEY!!!
     
  2. chadfromdallas macrumors member

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    Yes, its microsoft's fault that you recieve junk mail :rolleyes:

    Give me a break, lol.

    You probubly gave it out to a website.
     
  3. edesignuk Moderator emeritus

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    Wow. I can't believe you are trying to blame Bill Gates personally for all your junk mail! :eek: Stop putting your e-mail address into all those free p0rn in your mailbox things and you might not get as much ;) :D j/k. But seriously, there must be a reason you are getting it. Like some where you have registered at is distributing your address, bots finding you address on the web, there are any number of reasons.
     
  4. rainman::|:| macrumors 603

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    uh, no, he's right. spam has increased a great deal since the worm attacks, for just about everyone. mine has been increasing every day since then. it's out of control now. i'd imagine within a couple of months, a lot of email server software will just start failing because it can't handle the inundation.

    i would suggest something has to be done soon. i can't even imagine dealing with my email if i didn't have Mail's junk filter-- neither my ISP's nor any other reduces more than about 5%. Mail does about 98%.

    pnw
     
  5. arn macrumors god

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    well, I don't think he's talking about junk mail perse -- but the virus emails.

    I personally got over 1000 emails in a 24hour period due to that virus.

    arn
     
  6. chadfromdallas macrumors member

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    Best thing to do then is Find out who they are coming from and tell them they are infected. ;) That will stop them.
     
  7. arn macrumors god

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    Are you kidding?

    The virus sends emails to and from everyone... you can't easily tell who's infected. I get hundreds of emails telling me that I have the virus, because the virus-software that screens just looks at the return address. (I don't have the virus). The virus spoofs everyone's address.

    arn
     
  8. rainman::|:| macrumors 603

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    Re: What is up with all the junk mail!!!

    this is just a hare paranoid. you can have it delete junk mail a week, month whatever after it filters it out... i just scan through my junk mail once every couple of weeks... i spent a few weeks training it, and it gets hundreds of messages a week, but has only taken normal messages about twice... usually the only normal messages it will take are commercial ones, like Paypal notifications or something... you could set up a rule to avoid this if you noticed it being a problem.

    Mail's filter is easily the most powerful and best one i've seen, use it for god's sake!!!

    pnw
     
  9. edesignuk Moderator emeritus

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    I agree that junk mail has increased, but I don't see how you can go nutz @ Bill because of it. There are people in this world that hate him & his company so much that no matter what they do they will always find a loop hole to exploit. I'm sure if anyone could be bothered (which thank god they can't) then they could write sumthin that spread via OS X and it's address book.

    Yes spam is annoying, yes there is getting more of it. Is it Bill Gates (and so Microsofts) fault. IMO no.
     
  10. shadowfax macrumors 603

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    what's more appalling, though? people who can't stop all these attacks or the people making them?

    i suspect that a massive factor in the reason that MS has so much trouble with this is that literally everyone trying to hack security is trying to hack theirs. i blame the people that write these thing. spam mailing is illegal, even if it's easy to do, and virus-writing and distribution is one of the most capital forms of theft in the world. we should spend more resources catching these criminals, and the latter should do serious, serious jail time. the kind of jail time that ruins their lives as completely as they ruin billions of people's days/weeks.
     
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    same here, but I think apple would still do much better if the tables turned.

    But I haven't recieved a single junk mail email. :)

    Only like 4 people know this email address though. Started it the day b4 yesterday or something.

    scem0
     
  13. WinterMute Moderator emeritus

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    I love all that spam mail, my p*nis is bloody enormous now I can tell you...:D :D ;) ;)
     
  14. dreamlance macrumors regular

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    Neither I. But my university account (which is listed on some webistes) went haywire and kept sending out viruses. So much for an invincible Sun system.
     
  15. Abstract macrumors Penryn

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    I get around 4 pieces of junkmail every day to all 3 of my email accounts. Its all crap that can't be filtered. I set up a hotmail account that filters out any email with "*****" or "Viagra" in the Subject line because.........well......... I have no need for it. :cool:

    It works, but now they're sending me "vrtypenis eeenlargement...." emails where everything is spelt wrong. :mad:
     
  16. G4scott thread starter macrumors 68020

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    I've given out my e-mail on many websites, but only in the last weeks, that I've been at school, have I started to get lots of e-mail. And there are viruses that are responsible for the majority of it...
     
  17. tazo macrumors 68040

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    Re: What is up with all the junk mail!!!

    I get those all the time..one time i even got about 90 or so paypal scam emails that were spoofed from my email address!
     
  18. Mr. Anderson Moderator emeritus

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    I'm just amazed that even today I got at least half a dozen virus emails.....that they're still out there is scary.

    And what ever happened to the next one, thought there was all this concern over what we might see after SoBig was over....

    D
     
  19. zimv20 macrumors 601

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    another party to blame

    not defending them, but....

    MS has patched their buggy s/w to stop these worms. Symantec et. al. have scripts that clean previously infected files. so let's blame the lame-o PC users who don't know enough to run 'Windows Update' periodically -- and especially when worm/virus news hits the airwaves -- or virus-scan their hard drives.
     
  20. shadowfax macrumors 603

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    i can't imagine how big your breasts must be. :eek::eek:
     
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  22. CMillerERAU macrumors regular

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    I've got an interesting worm story for you all. As some of you know I'm in charge of the macs in our little campus newspaper. Well this year we fired it all up and now our laser printer won't work. Well, it works fine when we disconnect our switch from the rest of the dorms (our office is in a dorm suite) but once we hook up the printer freezes when we try to print. I asked IT and, as usual, they shrugged. They blame it on a worm going through campus. Can this really happen? I'm completely frutrated because this weekend is when we're putting together the paper and have to disconnect and reconnect to the internet just to print! Its an HP LaserJet 4050N, no we can't get it on our Xserve's print server. And even if we had a serial plug to attach it directly to our old PowerMac 7300, it would take hours to send the layout through. Any suggestions?
     
  23. shadowfax macrumors 603

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    just a shot in the dark, but is there some kind of firewall that you use when you have the internet hooked up that you take off when you turn the internet off to print? it sounds like you may be having some sort of addressing issue when the internet is connected... maybe a DHCP issue? i dunno, i have very little LAN experience.
     
  24. CMillerERAU macrumors regular

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    Ack! The DHCP server is the bane of my mac-existance on my campus. Its always given mac folk problems by not giving us IP addresses on boot (I have to go in and fiddle with network preferences to get one). However, this has been a problem for a while and it never gave us any problems. The network is on a firewall out to the internet but again, shouldn't be a problem for us. Another interesting point: the activity lights on the switch are flickering like there is constant data being sent to all the ports on it. It wasn't the case last year, it only flickered when you were actually sending data through (like browsing the internet and not just sitting idle).
     
  25. G4scott thread starter macrumors 68020

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    What I'm thinking...

    Is maybe when you're connected to the network, a DHCP server somewhere else is taking over, and giving your printer a different IP address, and when you disconnect it, the local network handles it automatically, and it works fine...

    That's about the only problem I can think of, but of course, I'm not a network specialist...
     

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