whats a good app for emial? outlook express?

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  1. hotdog macrumors newbie

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    Hi there,

    Used to use outlook express on my pc. Is this prog avaialable for macs (G5)
    is it recomended?
    if not what's a goodan?

    am new to macs...
    thanks in advance, ez
     
  2. Alte22a macrumors 6502

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    If you get Office you can get entourage, I guess thats as close to Outlook. I am not sure if you can import your folders and address book. But you might want to use mail, address book and iCal. I switched from Entourage to Mail cause I use the address book to sync with my phone and pda.
     
  3. brap macrumors 68000

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    Of course, if you don't want to sync and whatever, try Mozilla Thunderbird. Gets the job done, and is in constant development. Beats the pants off Outlook or Entourage on any platform.
     
  4. hotdog thread starter macrumors newbie

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    so errrr.... will mail be a program already on my G5????
     
  5. brap macrumors 68000

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    Better than that, it should even be in your dock already. Icon looks like a stamp...
     
  6. hotdog thread starter macrumors newbie

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    well whada know.. so it it is... fab. thanks chaps
     
  7. MisterMe macrumors G4

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    Outlook and Outlook Express are two different applications. Neither has been ported to MacOS X 10.x. Despite the similarity in names, the two programs don't really have anything to do with each other. Outlook is used to accesss Microsoft Exchange servers. It can't access your ISP's POP3 or IMAP server, though it is something kind of like IMAP. On the other hand, Outlook Express can access your ISP's POP3 or IMAP server, it can't access your firm's Microsoft Exchange server. When you look at it that way, I suppose, Outlook and Outlook Express complement each other. They are both free.

    If you are a MacOS X user, then Microsoft provides you with a single email solution. It is Microsoft Entourage. It can access your ISP's POP3 or IMAP server. It can also access your firm's Microsoft Exchange server. It can't do everything that Outlook does, but you can read all the crap that your boss and coworkers send you. Microsoft Entourage is part of Microsoft Office v.X and Microsoft Office 2004. It is not free.
     
  8. saabmp3 macrumors 6502a

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    Outlook can access POP and IMAP servers, not sure about http mail (aka hotmail). Outlook is NOT FREE!!! It's part of the office packages or costs something absurd like 200 bucks by itself.


    BEN
     
  9. MisterMe macrumors G4

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    Microsoft is fairly clear about what Outlook can and can't do on this web page and this page just one click deeper. As to whether or not Outlook is free, by now you should know that you were mistaken, but this page should end all doubts.
     
  10. bousozoku Moderator emeritus

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    Yes, since Outlook for Mac is no longer being developed and doesn't run on a current Mac operating system natively, it is free. Entourage is included with MS Office. Why bother?

    There isn't a single organiser application that's cheap but for e-mail alone, Thunderbird is great. Considering how many problems I've seen with Mac OS X's mail application, I feel better having chosen Thunderbird.
     
  11. saabmp3 macrumors 6502a

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    I think were all talking about OSX and newer versions for the PC here (no outlook for OSX and outlook is NOT free for PC's).

    BEN
     
  12. mkrishnan Moderator emeritus

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    Likewise Outlook on PCs can definitely handle POP/IMAP e-mail. I guess after a little while of using iCal/AdBk/Mail, there are some minor advantages. I always had Outlook locked up doing a mail search and couldn't see my calendar or contacts. :) And there is some integration between the apps -- you can get addresses out of AdBk automatically in Mail, of course. No sending people calendar entries, but with Outlook, AFAIK you cannot do that without being on an exchange server. :( I wish somebody would come up with a robust system for people to do this with personal e-mail and calendars...it'd be way fun for planning get togethers and stuff.

    And also I wish somebody would make a Yahoo analogue to the httpmail plugin that lets you read Hotmail in Mail.
     
  13. ingenious macrumors 65832

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    Yea, Mail is that postage stamp on your Dock. Between Mail and Entourage, I'd choose Mail. It works much better for me.
     
  14. ingenious macrumors 65832

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    No No No! Outlook is NOT free. It CAN too open POP3, IMAP, and even HTTP mail! It is also a newsreader. It connects to your ISP same as Outlook express. The difference is that Outlook is more of a business manager (connects to Exchange servers and has a calendar and journal etc.) while outlook express is just an email/newsgroup reader. Entourage is both of them stuck together for mac.
     
  15. MisterMe macrumors G4

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    OK, Caleb. Outlook for Windows may not be free, but Outlook for the Mac most definitely is free. In my previous post, I including a link to Microsoft's download site for Outlook 2001. Furthermore, Outlook 2001 is restricted to Exchange servers. Before you post again, be sure to read.
     
  16. ingenious macrumors 65832

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    Actually, I thought I read the rest of it. Now, that I look at it, I guess not. My Bad.... :rolleyes:
     
  17. saabmp3 macrumors 6502a

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    MisterMe,

    I think why everybody is jumping on your post is because Outlook is no longer avaible for OSX. Most people just don't use OS9 anymore, especially in a discussion about Entourage and Mail. I think it's just a big mis-understanding.

    BEN
     
  18. MisterMe macrumors G4

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    I did not initiate the discussion about Outlook. In the very first post in this thread, hotdog asked if Outlook was available on the Mac. He did not ask if Outlook had been ported to MacOS X 10.x.

    The facts are these:
    • Outlook is available on the Mac.
    • It is a free download.
    • It can only be used to access Exchange servers.
    The fact that Outlook is not MacOS X 10-native, not withstanding. It is highly debateable that most people don't use MacOS 9 anymore. I know that I use it. So too do most Mac-users that I know. Some Mac users need Classic exclusively to run Outlook on their Macs.
     
  19. bousozoku Moderator emeritus

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    Actually, he asked about Outlook Express, which is not Outlook.
     
  20. RHutch macrumors 6502

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    I don't have a hotmail account, so I haven't used the plugin that you are talking about, but there is a solution for Yahoo! accounts. You can use Yahoopops or Mr. Postman. Both will allow Mail to access the messages in your Yahoo! accounts and download them to your hard drive.

    I have used both. I prefer Mr. Postman.
     
  21. mkrishnan Moderator emeritus

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    Wow! I hadn't seen these before. I'm going to check them out! Thanks! :D

    Right now I have POP access to Yahoo but its a carryover from having Yahoo SBC DSL. Now that I'm out of their svc area, I think it will go away soon. :(
     
  22. Hoven macrumors regular

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    Hi all.
    Well, I'm a bit surprised that no one mentioned Eudora (http://www.eudora.com/). It's a nice little program that you can operate free (with mini-ads showing) otherwise I think it's $40 or $50. Not the wizziest, bangiest interface, but clean and simple enough.

    We use it over others for 2 reasons...

    One is that we have 3 people using the same Mac (same login too) and each of us can operate our own e-mail accounts.

    The other reason is a feature called Personalities. My wife is the Moderator of a ListServe so we get e-mail forwarded to us from a server other than our regular e-mail server. The Moderator personality that we set up automatically handles in-coming and out-going e-mail... in-coming is routed to various ListServe folders, out-going is marked to look like it came from Moderator, not my wife's personal account.

    Now, honestly, having said that... for simple, one person user e-mail the built-in Apple Mail should do it, but I thought I'd throw in another bit of info for you to ponder. :rolleyes:
     
  23. MisterMe macrumors G4

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    Sorry, you're right. It was Alte22a who mentioned Outlook in the first reply to hotdog. My first post was a reply to Alte22a's first post.
     
  24. abhishekit macrumors 65816

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    can you give a link for Mr.Postman ? i could find yahoopops but not the former.

    thanks
     
  25. mkrishnan Moderator emeritus

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    http://mrpostman.sourceforge.net/

    Hmmm..both of these seem to be middle layer programs that run separately from Mail and simulate the pop server. I haven't tried them yet, too bad they're not plugins like httpmail. But still, works is better 'n nothin! :)
     

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