What's the point of a "enter" page?

Discussion in 'Web Design and Development' started by Bern, May 7, 2006.

  1. Bern macrumors 68000

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    Someone suggested to me I should have a first page on my site that is simply a full page image with "enter" beneath it. Personally I hate those pages because I really don't see the point of it.

    What is the purpose of such a page on a web site?
     
  2. Lau Guest

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    I have no idea. I suppose they mean that you can have a nice picture or animation before you enter, but personally I agree with you - there's no point, and frankly, they get right on my boobs. :)
     
  3. Applespider macrumors G4

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    Didn't they go out with the ark?

    You don't want one; just means that you have the chance of losing the 70% of visitors who only go to your home page, a page earlier
     
  4. thevessels macrumors regular

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    idk i like em . kinda gets me excited and ready for the "feel" of the site before i dive in . this may be more relevant to flash web sites , but regardless , im a fan .
     
  5. PlaceofDis macrumors Core

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    i can understand flash sites that use 'em for choosing between flash and html, but otherwise i think they are just pointless. a splash page with links to the rest of the site i understand and actually use myself.
     
  6. Dagless macrumors Core

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    Very useful for folk like me who run a number of sites. You have an option for the main page and links at the bottom for mini-sites

    check it

    Though for non-Flash, single sites then I think they're a little pointless.
     
  7. Lau Guest

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    Actually, I had a look at your site earlier, and I didn't even notice those links at the bottom, and just whacked on "enter" the way I do on all sites with a splash page. It's a shame, now you point them out, there's a few nice photos on there. I am notoriously impatient and unobservant, which might explain such behaviour, but I personally would rather see "sub-links" as it were as links from a main page as I rarely pay attention to a splash page. "Skip Intro" is my mantra. :p
     
  8. dornoforpyros macrumors 68040

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    1)To waste the users time

    2)To effect your google rankings

    3)To wa...

    Oh wait, I got carried away, those are all reasons NOT to do it. Unless you have a specific need (EG Geographic targeting, high bandwidth VS low bandwidth) there is no reason to do it.
     
  9. EricNau Moderator emeritus

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  10. cjc343 macrumors 6502

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    Splash pages with no purpose other than to create one more click to actual content rank pretty high in my list of web annoyances... not that my list is one most people pay attention to, or, for that matter, is published anywhere. If you want to be nice to me though, and avoid some of the other top items, don't:

    Play any noise, sound, music, etc... without explicit user permission.
    Use Flash
    Disable Right-Click
    Disable Left-Click
    Use Javascript Alerts when people enter or leave your site.
    Use Javascript Alerts unless ABSOLUTELY necessary.
    Use painfully-bright colors on black.
    Use dark colors on black.
    Use light colors on white.
    Use similar text colors to whatever your background color happens to be.
    Make it necessary in any way for me to remove formatting to actually read your site.
    Use invalid *HTML.
    Use invalid CSS.
    Create links out of random words.
    Type all the text in capitals or in alternating caps.
    Put up "Under Construction" pages.
    Resize the window.
    Open a new window.
    Use flashy graphics.
    Mis-use the language you are writing in.
    Put a counter on the page.
    Make users scroll sideways.
     
  11. Bern thread starter macrumors 68000

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    Gosh! Well I see then I'm not out dated in my thought patterns.

    Thanks for that input.
     
  12. RoxStrongo macrumors regular

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    sooooooo... your perfect website would be a book then.
     
  13. cjc343 macrumors 6502

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    I don't see how you get "book" from those guidlines.

    Macrumors, along with many of the sites I frequent follow those guidelines quite well.

    Apple recently joined the list of sites I will not visit because their current ads play automatically on their homepage. Since that is one of the most annoying of the things I listed, I'm happier visiting other sites.
     
  14. Les Kern macrumors 68040

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    They are INCREDIBLY important in the world of hyper-annoying web sites. Right up there with Flash intros and blinking, twirling, pulsating, flipping buttons and graphics.
    Load your site up with them... if you never, ever want a visitor to return.
    :)
     
  15. Linkjeniero macrumors 6502

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    <sarcasm>
    I really love it when a site that has a flash intro, but is otherwise flash free, doesn't provide a non-flash way of skipping the intro and actually entering the site... I've actually seen sites where they provide an "enter" button, appart from the flash intro... but the button is in flash too! A static piece of text, but flash just for the fun of it! You should do that...
    </sarcasm>
     
  16. dornoforpyros macrumors 68040

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    Although I actually kinda like flash(sorry it's part of my job) I think the funniest is when people use flash to deliver the "you need flash to view this website" message
     
  17. tag macrumors 6502a

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    Ok now that is just plain cool.
     
  18. thevessels macrumors regular

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    aww i guess im alone here ..
    but simple crap like this :
    http://www.newams.net
    i dig it ... no annoyance what-so-ever
     
  19. TheMonarch macrumors 65816

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    I'll take a stab at this one. It depends how creative you want to be about it.

    Some people know how to use them, others don't.

    I could make an 'Enter' page and take advantage of your browser's caching capabilities. For example, if they're a commonly displayed images/banners/etc., I could paste them on the 'Enter' page somewhere, or hide them [Layers], and when you do enter, they'd already be cached on your browser.

    This could give the illusion that your page loads faster than it really should, especially if you have a content-heavy site.
     
  20. Peyton macrumors 68000

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    I would say its for first impressions. A lot of 'net users are new, or relatively new, a nice, pretty front page makes people get that first impression before getting to the nitty gritty of the site.

    I think Apple.com is like that, dressed up, sure, but still, its an 'enter' page.
     
  21. Bern thread starter macrumors 68000

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    Now that's the first good reason I've ever heard for doing this, but wouldn't a home page do the same thing?
     
  22. mad jew Moderator emeritus

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    I thought they were left over from the days of slow connections. They're a good way of showing someone a site without having to use up that valuable bandwidth to see the actual site. Of course, this isn't really a problem anymore.

    blaskillet4, that's sneaky. I like it. :p
     
  23. Yvan256 macrumors 601

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    Most of the entry pages on websites are completely useless and are made by people who still think Web = Book. A book needs a cover, a website doesn't.

    It's as bad as those who think that Web = TV... With ads and animations everywhere... :rolleyes:

    I agree with Lau. Text links at the bottom of the page are usually a repeat of the main navigation links, so most people will overlook those links on your splash page.

    Couldn't agree more, cjc343. Except perhaps that "Use Flash" should also be item #5, #11, #15 and #18. Yeah, I hate Flash that much. :D

    While the idea is nice, that would be breaking your site in a very subtle way: the way pages load. All users know what loading is and sort of expect loading to occur the same way for all sites.

    If your "pre-load" stuff, it will seem as if your website is broken (what if I click [Enter] before it's all pre-loaded?)

    Unless I misunderstood your idea...

    Apple doesn't have an entry page. It's a front page. Huge difference.

    Entry page = some design with no real info and no links, you have to choice but to "enter" the actual website.

    Front page = website with content, links, etc. You can go anywhere in the site from a front page.

    Apple.com has "what's new" content, but otherwise that page is like all the other pages (navigation at the top, copyrights at the bottom, etc).
     
  24. mad jew Moderator emeritus

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    Average connection speeds have increased over time. Sure, we may call 56kbps slow now, but it wasn't slow ten years ago.
     
  25. Yvan256 macrumors 601

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    I wasn't trying to argue about the speed of 56kbps, I meant that a lot of people don't have access to faster connections.
     

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