whats the point of xbmc?

Discussion in 'Apple TV and Home Theater' started by utl768, Apr 7, 2011.

  1. macrumors 6502

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    i installed it last night and the thing is horrible

    it chokes on every video not .avi and for iso's the thing just quits itself

    i hear people touting it all the time but to me it seems like a real piece of **** software
     
  2. macrumors 6502a

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    Are you in 4.3.1?

    If so, XBMC will only work OK if you install the Nightly Builds, the latest official release was broken with the 4.3 update, and all the videos are processed with only software, not hardware.

    If you install the Nightly Build, then the problems is fixed. But... it's still a NB, so some bugs are still present.

    http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?t=96725
     
  3. thread starter macrumors 6502

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    installed the nighly builds and it still doesnt work

    these developers are a joke imo
     
  4. macrumors 6502

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    I've stuck to using Plex or aTV flash as XBMC seems very buggy at the moment.
     
  5. macrumors newbie

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    The point of XBMC on ATV2 is that it allows you to play video/audio that is not stored within iTunes. I have a lot of video in random formats and do not want to convert it all just to play on the ATV2. With XBMC I can just point it at an SMB share from my desktop machine and stream it directly to the ATV2 in whatever format and watch it on my projector. So far it has worked really well and I am impressed with the quality of free software. Its just a shame that apple makes it necessary to JB the box to allow owners of it to use it how they wish.

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  6. macrumors 6502

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    It would be a different story if this app was in the app store, but at this point in time XBMC on IOS is practically a proof of concept on this platform.

    And if not happy with it, feel free to return it for the full purchase price. :rolleyes:
     
  7. macrumors 6502a

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    Exactly. It works great on the other platforms but the ATV version is obviously a work in progress.

    I'm amazed they even bother at all when people like you have this kind of attitude
     
  8. macrumors 6502

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    Up till ATV 2 it really didn't bother me about jailbreaking my phones etc i was quite happy with them they way they were, i do however agree they really annoyed me with the atv 2 i feel they are getting a little greedy trying to lock it down completely.

    I would have been happy to pay a little more for it if they had allowed for personal software to be loaded on it.
     
  9. macrumors 6502a

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    That would be a Mac Mini then :D
     
  10. macrumors regular

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    How does your atv go at playing your avi's and iso's without xbmc. oh ok.

    mine has 800 avis, all with downloaded covers automatically and all playing without a hitch.
     
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    Excellent point.

    And the user would be paying "a little more" to the tune of +$600. I think that goes beyond a typical definition of "little". Or, at least with my budget it does. ;)
     
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    lehite

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    If you think you can do a better job I'm sure that the XBMC team would love for you to submit patches or contribute productively (rather than just criticize).

    I use XBMC (not on ATV2) and I love it, I think that they do a great job and the price is terrific.
     
  13. macrumors 6502a

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    You can't really complain about free software, which is currently under development (no official release for 4.3.1 yet) and runs in a hacked device. As for how to solve your problem, there is nothing we can do to help if you don't offer any details of how you installed XBMC...

    Did you use Seas0npass to JB your Apple TV? At the XBMC forums they are saying that the Pwnage tool to JB had some issues with XBMC. (LINK)
     
  14. macrumors regular

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    I haven't loaded XBMC in my ATV2 yet. That said, I've been using XBMC for many many years on my hacked Xbox (original) and it was without a doubt the best media streamer I ever used or saw. It would play just about any format.

    Lately, I've been using my PS3 to stream, and more recently, my ATV2, so the Xbox hasn't been fired up as much. But I always vouched for XBMC and hacked many peoples' Xbox just for this amazingly free software. Maybe it's not quite yet up to par on the ATV2, but I bet it will get there. There are some smart developers working on that software.
     
  15. macrumors 68020

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    My avi, mkv, wmv, and other formats play great without xbmc on the ATV. Using Air Video and Airplay. No hacking required. :D
     
  16. macrumors 6502a

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    Can you explain exactly what you mean?
     
  17. macrumors newbie

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    erm thats just wrong isn't it? ATV2 wont play mkv s.
     
  18. DefBref, Apr 9, 2011
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    As newagemac says use airvideo app on your iphone or ipad to access your mkv and then airplay it to your ATV2. No need for jailbreaking in any of the devices.

    http://www.inmethod.com/air-video/index.html

    You need the airvideo server software running on your Mac or Pc, but it works great.
     
  19. macrumors 68020

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    Involves encoding, and therefore loss of quality.
     
  20. macrumors 6502

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    Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 4_2_1 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/533.17.9 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/5.0.2 Mobile/8C148 Safari/6533.18.5)

    I have had my frustrations w/ XBMC in the past but it has run almost flawlessly for me on 4.2.1 and runs pretty good since Dharma on my old AppleTV. Before XBMC, I was having to convert all of my video content to mp4 - not to mention all of the tagging - to play it in iTunes. Also, some prefer XBMC because it doesn't require anything on the server side (iTunes, Plex).

    To each his own. I can remember when Boxee on ATV was all the rage but I found it unusable.
     
  21. macrumors 6502

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    Yes but its still a solution that doesn't require jailbreaking.

    FWIW I do use xbmc on my ATV2, but also use airvideo on my non jailbroken ipad.
     
  22. macrumors 68020

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    Seeing that many people who use xbmc use it for playing terribly outdated formats and containers like .avi, (and often from suspect sources) then I don't think quality is much of a concern for them. ;)

    I use modern high quality formats and containers like .m4v and h.264 but if for some reason I am forced to use something like .avi then Air Video + AirPlay works great. And the transcoding is done with bitrates at up to 5mbps which is good for anything up to 720p HD. And of course this method also gives you the option of switching the video back and forth between your mobile device and all your TVs at the tap of a button. If all you want to do is play unsupported formats I believe this is a more attractive option.
     
  23. macrumors 68020

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    The Plex iOS app just added AirPlay support too so that is another option.
     
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    I'll be honest and say you probably haven't installed it correctly, as i and many others on here and on other forums have the nightly builds and 4.3.1 running as they are intended... almost perfect witha few kinks here and there.

    If you are not capable enough of installing software in this fashion then perhaps you should just stay away instead of venting your frustrations towards people who spend their own free time developing FREE software for the public to use and contribute to.

    Once a stable official release is out there it will be perfect and at that point i will safely say that i see no need to update my ATV 2 until apple release something spectatcular, at present XBMC makes ATV 2 a dream for most users.

    That was my long winded response, in short if you like it then dont use it, stop posting looking for a debate!!!
     
  25. macrumors 6502

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    They work for FREE.
     

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