what's your definition of a geek?

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    janey

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    what is your definition of a geek and a nerd and the differences between those two terms?
     
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    well, to start, i usually take the "nerd" as sort of a negative sounding word. perhaps someone who studies a whole lot for school. geek maybe would be someone who's interested in stuff most people aren't, such as enjoying technology more than they should. i usually don't feel insulted when people call me a geek. both i would say refer to a person with above average intelligence

    according to dictionary.com:

    nerd
    n : a student who studies excessively
    n. 1. [mainstream slang] Pejorative applied to anyone
    with an above-average IQ and few gifts at small talk and ordinary
    social rituals. 2. [jargon] Term of praise applied (in conscious
    ironic reference to sense 1) to someone who knows what's really
    important and interesting and doesn't care to be distracted by
    trivial chatter and silly status games.

    geek
    n : a person with an unusual or odd personality
     
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    a sort of off definition could be...

    people who are obsessed with something that isn't mainstream/popular
     
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    My definition of a geek is basically the same as the OED or dictionary.com except that geek implies wealth (not necessarily money wise), maturity, a love for technology and BRAINS while nerd has a negative feeling to it and kinda implies that you're a horny teen who loves computers. ;)
     
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    me :D :D ;) :p
     
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    awww scem0 you're a horny teen who likes computers? :p
     
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    Not everyone here on Macrumors is a geek, I'm a bitch myself.[​IMG]
     
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    alternately from dictionary.com, the first thing that comes up if "nerd" is entered:

    also, there was this:
    let's check geek, first definition, again:
    sure, there are Beez's definitions too, but these i think are primary.
    a point about the etymology of geek:
    maybe random.

    there's nothing in the term "geek" to suggest any for of wealth, except that of eccentricity. almost without exception, this word connotes a fairly high degree of anti-social tendency, whether due to social ineptitude or just a general dislike of people. this is not often regarded as mature. i would admit also that geekiness implies fairly strongly a love of technology.

    there's also nothing in the term nerd to suggest that the person masturbates, or thinks about sex any more than anyone else. the definition, and its uses, all preclude any logical inference that the person is predisposed to such activities/thoughts. Nerd also has a possible implication of great intelligence, and both geek and nerd strongly imply great sophistication in a VERY limited number of fields.

    both terms have classically (thinking, within the last 50 years) been used to refer to unattractive, overly and overtly studious people who have numerous social troubles.

    über, i am not sure when you decided that geek had such a world of greater sophistication and finess then nerd, but there is sure nothing to be found in a dictionary or in my personal experience to suggest that.

    generally, this word is going to be "improperly" applied--i.e., it will be used as some form of hyperbole. for instance, i would call myself a geek, and a nerd, but i have a fair share of friends, and i get out on friday nights. i also spend a lot of time on my computer, do very well in school (though i am not very studious), and fill in other stereotypes of geeks and nerds. they are not a black and white words, by any means, and as there are few true geeks/nerds by definition, they are indeed words that get thrown around. they both have a great deal in common, at the root, however, have been historically used synonymously, and bear little in and of themselves to connote your suggestions, über.
     
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    he just said yes, so he's also
    as he implied "both," not just "nerd"
     
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    Okay okay sheesh!
    But i'm not the only person who thinks geeks are better than nerds.
    besides geek sounds better than nerd.
     
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    According to Shadowfax, he's also unattractive. Just take a look at his 'tar! :p :eek:
     
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    favorite poster on macrumors, has to be:

     
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    dude i think gollum's so adorable *crying*
    gollum's gotta be the cutest thing ever *more crying*
    boohoohoo :mad:
     
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    geek does sound a lot better than nerd. :)
     
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    thank you so much you're one of the first people on MR to say that...unlike *cough* shadowfax *cough*
     
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    oh, my boyfriend didn't call me a slut this time, he called me a whore! that sounds better. yeah, i like the aesthetic value of that one better.
     
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    I have no idea who Gollum is, so refer to scem's spinning faceplate. :D
     
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    gollum is the name of that disturbingly cute hobbit thing in LOTR2 the two towers, he's the thing in scem's avatar.
     
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    he's not a hobbit at the time. he's a mini-me monster with an incredibly complex, engrossing multiple personality complex that allows him to literally take the leading role in the movie. his character in the book, however, is much more interesting.
     
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    he used to be somewhat of a hobbit a long time ago, when he was still sméagol.
     
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    read the book twice, saw the movie once. tolkien is pretty sharp.
     
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    i dont want to start a book argument here, but those books are
    waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay over-rated. They are soooooooooo
    boring. All of the lord of the rings series and the hobbit. I barely
    managed to read them all. I kept falling asleep because I was
    bored out of my mind. His plots and ideas are good, but he
    starts writing about the lineage of the dorowindll elves in Llorithain
    and I just can't stay awake. BTW those were fake names ;).

    Oh, and in the movies, Legolas is too perfect. But they are still
    great movies.
     
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    I ate it up, lol. and read the silmarillion too. i'm shocked you don't like him, because he's honestly about as good a storyteller as they come. he honestly doesn't spend much time on the lineage--if you go and check elsewhere. it's also highly skimmable; i skipped over half the songs the first time through.

    the movies, on the other hand, leave a good deal more to be desired. but that's just my opinion, "not to start a book argument."

    i hated the catcher in the rye, and everyone around me loved it. sometimes it happens.
     
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    If the books put you to sleep I gotta wonder about your avatar. I guess you just like the movies...
     
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    you gotta be kidding

    the lotr series puts you to sleep?
    harry potter does that to me...
    i read the books 3x each (hobbit, lotr, silmarillion) and saw each movie (so far) at least 5x (not because i really wanted to okay?).
    don't you mean the elves in lothlórien?
     
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