When are they updating the Stinkin Mini's?

Discussion in 'Mac mini' started by Jman888, Jan 27, 2007.

  1. macrumors regular

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    I really want a mac Mini and a new LCD But the Mac mini is Kinda Messed up.
    I mean on the $600 Model You only get a Combo Drive but if you want to burn Dvd's You gotta get the $800 Model.
    Shouldnt That be standard? I mean Most computors around that price have Dvd Burners..

    -Also it only comes with 512Mb Of ram. That is clearly not enough to get by with having OSX (I use Macs 4Hours + A day and i know That much ram is torture) But thats amost ok...

    -AND THE INTEGRATED GRAPHICS WTF!
    I would own a mac Mini right now if it came with a Decent (Or atleast "OK" GPU) People always say that it cant be done or its a bad idea. But the old Mini had it and it was the first mac i really considered (But having a G4 was kinda holding me back..)I hate integrated graphics WTF is up with the Mini and the Macbook (oddly the only 2 macs i was considering)

    -Oh and 80$ for a mouse and keyboard.

    I want to switch to a mac (My daily time using them just makes me want one more.) But there is nothing that works for me.
    Theres the mini that is perfect exept for those things.
    Macbook thats a good price But still has integrated Graphics.
    Imac with the built in screen
    And MacPro & MacbookPro that cost too much for me.

    If apple gave me a Mini With Dedicated Graphics With options for 128/256MB With a Dvd Burner and Lowered the cost of keyboard and mouse i would buy a mini. But i dont want integrated graphics (Main problem) And would like The current highend to be the new lowend. Also Wheres the core2??

    Ok /rant Off But seriously apple needs a Non AIO Desktop that works.
     
  2. macrumors 68030

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    Sounds like an iMac is really what you are looking for...
     
  3. thread starter macrumors regular

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    I dont want the imacs screen..
     
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    thejadedmonkey

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    Bennin your parden?:rolleyes:
     
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    The graphics on the current Mini are better than on the old one. Do you actually know what integrated graphics means?

    Sounds like you want a 24" iMac. i'm sure you would be quite pleased.
     
  7. thread starter macrumors regular

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    minus the screen + upgradeability if i go that way..
     
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    Jasonbot

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    As said so many times before, the mac mini has its place. What you want is a headless iMac AKA:G4 Cube II this WILL NOT happen, or at leaqst no one ever knows what ol McSteve has in his bag of tricks.
     
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    Dont Hurt Me

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    Integrated means Cheap, make no mistake, It costs near nothing for Apple(less then $4) and it lines the pockets of its CEO's and Apples bank account. Its maxed out by its current cpu's so even if it gets a faster CPU like core2 it will make little difference in stuff such as gaming. Its crippling for imac sales and little else.
    Apple went forward with better cpu's and backwards with its integrated graphics that cant even run shaders, etc. Its crap in gaming. Get ready for the fan club who will say how great it is but never ever have benches to prove it. My suggestion is iMac and if you own a decent display go find a Dell or HP tower.
     
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    zap2

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    PC gamerzzzzzz ownzz

    Its better then the old Minis...again if you want games, don't buy a Mini!
     
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    Sorry, but you can get a 1.66 with Superdrive (the high end before the speed bump) for $649 or the current 1.83 for $699, both as refurbs from the Apple Store. Back when it was a 1.5 Core Solo and a 1.66 Core Duo, the Core Solo had a DVD burner option for $50. So for the same $649 you get a refurb with the burner, but a Core Duo. For $100 less than retail you get the 1.83. Buy yourself some RAM from OWC or somewhere, either 1 or 2GB and throw it in yourself. Very easy. As far as the graphics. I have a Mini, and the graphics are just fine. What are you using it for that you need a dedicated card? If you tell me you want to BootCamp it for Windows games, then I have no sympathy for you. If you are using photo or video editing then the graphics are just fine, it's the RAM you need. And if you are doing any 3D animation or something you really need graphics power for, then the Mini is not the right machine for you and it sounds like you want power for cheap. Sorry but good products aren't given away. As far as your Mouse and Keyboard, you can use any USB ones so use something you have or get a something cheaper. The Mac Mini setup isn't expensive. I won't lie to you, it is overpriced for what you get to some point, especially when you consider what the iMacs give you for the price. I too don't want an all in one, but the Mac Pro is overkill, and there is no midrange tower. I was hoping to see one at MWSF, but since there wasn't, I will end up with a 24" iMac when Leopard comes out. And if there was I would hook it up to a 23" Apple Display before you ever got a Dell LCD in my house. As for you sig. It's more whining about price and features than an actual rant. :D
     
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    There are a lot of us out here waiting for Apple to come out with something to plug into our HDTVs. Apple TVs shortcomings make me hesitant on buying it. Hopefully sometime this year Apple will update the Mini to have either HDMI or component out along with a dedicated graphics card. An updated bluetooth keyboard with a trackpad would be nice ala the one Sony is including with its new VAIO mini computer.
     
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    So, who says the Mini is targeted for the gaming market? Obviously it is not. What it is becoming very good for is entry-level and a general business desktop. And for that it does very well.
     
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    The Mini does not come with a keyboard. But, you can run any kind you want. What are the ATV's shortcomings? Oops, never mind, this thread is about the Mini.
     
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    my g4 mini rocks. I'm not a gamer and use an external dvd burner, but my shiny new :apple: only set me back $500. Got to pick my own choice for peripherals... I'm lovin it for going on two years now!:) (did upgrade to 1 gig ram.)
     
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    macjonny1

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    HDMI in the mini

    People mention having HDMI in the mini as being important. What would that do for someone that the DVI and optical audio out cant? You can get a cheap DVI/HDMI adapter and there you go? Is there something I'm missing?

    I'd like to see the mini be able to have the horsepower to handle an external HD-DVD or bluray drive, as I don't think it would now. In that case, I guess the HDMI for copy protection is necessary?
     
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    dornoforpyros

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    ahh and more people still don't understand the purpose of a mini. Next it'll be "how come the mini doesn't have more than 1 harddrive bay?"
     
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    macjonny1

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    I do understand the purpose of the mini, but that doesn't mean you cant want it to do something it can't. The mini has since the beginning been something that people wanted to turn into some sort of entertainment hub. For example, it wouldnt need that much more (i.e. a grafx card) to be able to process HD content from an external drive. You could make the enclosure a little bit bigger to fit it if necessary and have the option for one. You would then expand the market for it greatly.

    I really think apple will eventually move to something like this as they get more involved with consumer electronics, but it may just be wishful thinking.
     
  20. thread starter macrumors regular

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    I understand the purpose of the mini i just am mad apple doesnt have what i need. I may end up with a dell... All i really want is a Superdrive Mini with Dedicated Graphics. Not OMGWTFBBQ 8800GTX SLI'd or something Like that. Just something that can handle Newish Games at 1024 x 768 With Decent FPS. The imacs x1600 Would Be perfect (OR as said. (On my Blog a x1400 would even work.(Even though a lot of that is farfetched but i know it would cause apple to gain marketshare. I know dozens of people who would kill for that stuff. )
    Im just saying i want to switch but apple offers me only
    Macmini - almost perfect but... Combodrive And GMA_950?
    Imac - Good Specs but i prefer my own Screen..
    Mac Pro - Amazing And perfect in every way.. Exept Price
    Then what do i have to choose from..A Dell?

    I say bring back the cube..
     
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    Fixed that for you.

    GPUs on Apple computers exist for the sole purpose of pimping Apple's extravagent eye candy. They don't exist to play those 3 games that sit in your local Applecentre. It is a fact. :p
     
  22. macrumors demi-god

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    You mean the integrated graphics that can run Aero on Vista (which quite a few of the dedicated Windows video cards can't)?
     
  23. thread starter macrumors regular

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    Im not a real serious gamer (Heck im running Linux) But there is that occasional game i would like to play (UT2K7 Seems to be the Next) That i would like to play. Why cant Apple make their machines with Decent Graphics cards? (Other than pro) Im sure they are losing a lot of Customers solely because of that. I mean Bootcamp seems like it makes the whole game issue a non issue but without the power to power it...
    Ah well. guess i'll get a dell :(
     
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    I reccomend that you get a second hand powermac g5...good for games, and cheaper than a Mac Pro
     
  25. thread starter macrumors regular

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    Windows?

    Look once apple makes a mid-Desktop and a faster mini ima have some problems. :mad:
     

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