When will Blu-Ray or HD-DVD be available?

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  1. Chopper9 macrumors member

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    Anyone have a clue as to when these type drives will be available on the pro-lines? I have been wanting to upgrade to a newer mac pro, but was sort of waiting for a major optical update.

    Do ANY computers out there ship with them yet?

    Thanks for any info.
     
  2. vniow macrumors G4

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    Some PCs ship with pre-installed next gen optical drives but stand alone ones are hard to find. This was the only one I could find on Newegg after a quick search.

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16827131365

    It'll cost you an arm and a leg though so unless you're really wanting to be a first adopter....
     
  3. Chopper9 thread starter macrumors member

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    Wasnt really looking for an add-on, but rather when Apple will ship thier models with the next gen burners.

    Was wondering if there has been any word or speculation.
     
  4. bartelby macrumors Core

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    I'd say Apple were waiting to see which format becomes standard before jumping in and adding the wrong one.
     
  5. Chopper9 thread starter macrumors member

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    God I hope not... that could take YEARS!

    I'd be happy with either, but would prefer Blu-Ray - just for the more storage factor. I could care less about watching movies on my mac... i just want to use it for storage.

    Can you imagine putting 50GB on one disc???
     
  6. apfhex macrumors 68030

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    It'll probably be a little while. Why do you need Blu-ray for right now? Backup is the only option (aside from movies) since no one else is going to have a Blu-ray drive. Go get a 80GB hard drive for $40 and toss it in a USB2.0 case, BOOM, there you go, larger portable storage for less than 1/16 the price (and a lot more convenient than having to burn discs).
     
  7. LethalWolfe macrumors G3

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    Hopefully the OP is looking for data storage only 'cause it's gonna be a while before next gen optical drives show up in computers that allow you to playback next gen movies.


    Lethal
     
  8. MisterMe macrumors G4

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    That is not the way Apple does things. Apple added DVD-RAM before the CD-R took Wintel by storm. It withdrew the DVD-RAM and became the first major manufacturer to feature the DVD-R/CD-R/RW. Much more important to Apple is that a next-generation optical drive adds significantly to cost without yet much benefit to users. When there is a clear benefit to users, Apple will go with a next-generation drive. It said it supports Blu-ray. My bet is that Blu-ray is the way it goes.
     
  9. Chopper9 thread starter macrumors member

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    I dont know about you, but I have an ASSLOAD of photos, movies, and music just eating up my computer. I have almost a tera of storage and it is running out. Not to mention, not backed up.

    THAT is why I want large storage solution pretty quick. I can't just go buy a new hard drive everytime I run out, its expensive and inconveinent.
     
  10. LethalWolfe macrumors G3

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    . A 25gig Blu-ray disc is gonna cost around $20. That's not exactly inexpensive.


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  11. ~Shard~ macrumors P6

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    Yes I can - 50 GB is nothing. I can imagine much better things than that as well... :p :cool:
     
  12. Chopper9 thread starter macrumors member

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    We all said the same thing when DVD-Rs first came out.

    The will be under a buck in no time.

    By the way, TDK has developed a new way to get 200GB on one BluRay disc.

    Holographic Versatile Disc? Up to 3.9 TB????????

    Whoah!!!!!!!!!!! It feels like we are finally getting into some cool stuff in computer, TV, audio.... I mean REAL advancements.
     
  13. ~Shard~ macrumors P6

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    Not quite "no time" but eventually, yes... ;)

    Glad I could enlighten ya on that one. But it's all relative - HVD itself is nothing compared to the protein-based technologies that are being researched as well... if the technologies ever actually come to fruition of course. :cool:
     
  14. mac4evan macrumors member

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    Possibly buit then again Apple is on the apart of both the Blu-Ray and HD DVD groups now.
    I hope and pray Blu-Ray wins. Yes it is more money but the technology is far superior:)
    Philips, has announced that they have already gotten Blu-Ray BD-R burning speeds up to 12x:D
    Hardmac.com has more on that...
     
  15. apfhex macrumors 68030

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    Sure, it'll be a fine backup solution once prices come down to something more like todays DVD-R/RW prices. But $800+ for a drive and $20+ for BD-R or RW's? You could buy a couple top-of-the-line 750GB drives for less. Plus you wouldn't have to deal with huge piles of discs (at least 30 of them at 50GB each to equal the HDDs).
     
  16. Shadow macrumors 68000

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    Bah! Thats nothing! I can think of much better things! My pr0n collection would hardly fit on that! :eek: :cool: :D ;) :p :) :)
     
  17. ~Shard~ macrumors P6

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    Already mentioned that one as well above, but thanks for coming out. :p :cool:
     
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    That's A LOT OF PORN!


    Back to topic,

    Blu-Ray is pretty damn expensive right now and I don't think it's worth it to be an early adopter. It's just like how the First CD burners came out, and the first DVD burners. They start out ridiculously expensive and a few years later, it's standard on every machine and everyone uses it.
     
  19. BackInTheSaddle macrumors regular

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    Pardon my ignorance, but does anyone know if there are movies or other materials being released on Blu-ray yet?
     
  20. ~Shard~ macrumors P6

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    Yep - check it out here. :cool:
     
  21. Jovian9 macrumors 68000

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    I can imagine it taking about 12 hours to burn that much data :)
     
  22. crazycat macrumors 65816

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    I like more space, i am getting a new Mac Pro that i will use only to edit movies and store them along with my photos. That might take over 1,000 GB worth of storage easly so anything that will help is welcomed. I might buy a blueray burner but i would like it to be an external so that i can shuck it against my wall if it does not work :)
     
  23. 2ms macrumors 6502

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    Even though Apple has long been a Blu-ray backer, I think now that Blu-ray has been having just Such an unbelievable number of problems, HD-DVD drives/players are about half the price of Blu-ray and look like they will always be much cheaper, that double-sided HD-DVD's (90GB triple layer) actually have more storage than the double-sided incapable Blu-ray, the twice as high inherent expense of producing the media for Blu-ray (requiring the fancy hardened surface because so sensitive to scratches, etc). I think Apple will go with HD-DVD because they have that option. Unfortunately for Philips and Sony, they do not have the option anymore of going back and doing things differently.

    My view is it's a bit like when Intel got so cocky in the days before AMD, that they thought they could pursue making a 64-bit cpu without being careful to really be smart about its design. What happened? After over like ten years development and billions of dollars and engineering resources sunken in, the Itanium, though theoretically capable of being awesome, ended up a dog, tanked ("Itanic"). Whereas a newly invigorated AMD developed the Sledgehammer in like 2 years and the Sledgehammer/Opteron still 5 years later rules the multi-CPU, 64-bit high margin, server CPU market with an iron fist. Intel ended up having to clone the Opteron's approach to 64-bit and actually utilize AMD's extensions with the 64-bit Core 2 D.
     
  24. knome macrumors 6502

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    do you know if that is native HD or did they shoot in 480 and stretch it up for the disk.
     
  25. ~Shard~ macrumors P6

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    I assume there has to be some upconversion present somewhere but I am not sure.
     

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