When's the MBP getting a HD screen?

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  1. appledu macrumors member

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    Hi all,

    Does anyone know if or when the MBP's getting a HD screen, that wouldn't have to downscale as the current one has to?

    I know that nobody really knows when it would be available, but do you think that it could become available in the near future?

    Thanks,

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  2. BornAgainMac macrumors 603

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    Also a HD iChat camera is due too. I saw Microsoft announce their web cams at HD somewhere. Maybe on Monday.
     
  3. mkrishnan Moderator emeritus

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    Didn't Apple already start calling their screens high def with the last round of Powerbooks? Higher Def? I take it you're interested in the 1920x1200 17" screen though? My guess would be that they will wait until they are shipping an operating system with res-independent UI....
     
  4. appledu thread starter macrumors member

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    So you think that with the rumored Merom upgrade, the screens may be upgraded too? :) :) :)

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  5. appledu thread starter macrumors member

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    Yeah, I'm thinking of a 17'' MBP that could display HD 1080 without downscaling.

    Could you elaborate on the phrase in bold, as I'm a newbie...:eek:

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  6. mkrishnan Moderator emeritus

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    In the past, Apple has been sensitive about selling computers with very high DPI screens on which the menus and buttons are so tiny that they are hard to use. And so they've often avoided the highest DPI screens and most Apples are in the 100-120 range. In contrast, Windows manufacturers have tended to offer more models and given users that sort of configuration if they wanted it.

    Resolution Independent UI is a next generation sort of feature that is widely rumored to be in Leopard. What this feature does is use a combination of scaling bitmaps (like OS X does with icons in the dock now) that can be scaled to a limited extent, and vector-based buttons and interface widgets that can be scaled arbitrarily. The entire user interface can then be rendered onto the screen based on desired physical size -- rather than showing up on the screen pixel-for-pixel and being whatever size that dictates.

    Once you have this feature, you can make the screen DPI as high as you want without impairing usability.

    To get a picture of where this leads in the long term... think about getting a 300DPI screen on a laptop, if this were possible. It would have 4-9x as many pixels as a screen today. If it were put on a laptop running Tiger or XP, then it would be unusable because the menu bar would be teeny tiny, etc.

    But with a resolution independent UI, the menu bar and widgets could be just as big as they ever were (but look extra gorgegous with more pixels to render them). At the same time, the picture or document you're working on will have 4x - 9x as much detail as it did before....

    Anyway, my theory is that you'll see Apple migrate to top-of-the-line resolutions after they get this feature, because they're too serious about ergonomics to go for unusable DPIs...
     
  7. appledu thread starter macrumors member

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    Thanks...Any idea when that may be out?

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  8. wonga1127 macrumors 6502

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    Tomorrow?

    Leopard is supposedly supposed to have this feature. Its all just speculation i suppose.


    Dang, 3 suppose- words.
     
  9. KingYaba macrumors 68040

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    There was a thread of some poeple trying to put a wuxga in their powerbooks and macbook pros. Though they had some issues...

    If apple puts 1900x1200 resolution in the 17" model. I'm buying!!!!
     
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    Why stop there when it's possible to get 1900x1200 into a 15" inch nowadays? :)
     
  11. Sequence macrumors member

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    It's already available in Tiger, but not widely used... Exposé use this feature to scale down the windows, that's why video are still playing in Quicktime when you use Exposé... The screen is not freezed, only scaled down.
    It might start to be used much more in the upcoming OS X, Leopard. More details will probably be available tomorrow.
     
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    i think the resolution for 15" MBP 1440x900 is perfect,
    i own and asus 15"4" with 1280x , the font look to big and very i con is too big
    i also own acer ferrari 15"4" with "high def" 1920x and the font is just to small to read it with my eyes,
    seriously, i think the current MBP resolution is perfect, i wont go any higher or lower for a 15" widescreen.
     
  14. mkrishnan Moderator emeritus

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    Just to be clear, yes, the core technology in a partially developed state is in Tiger. What counts is it being released to the developer community as an official feature of the OS for which they are "encouraged" to design.

    Hopefully that comes in an hour and a half! :D
     
  15. vv-tim macrumors 6502

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    To give you a reason to buy the 17"... sadly :(

    I still haven't managed to get the 1920x1200 working in Mac OS X...
     
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    Sounds good, but wouldn't all applications then need to be made with resolution indepedent UI as well? Or does the OS determine this ?
     
  17. DMPDX macrumors 6502

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    The last rev (e) of powerbooks were "high res" NOT hi-def. A bigger resolution yet still not high def.
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  18. appledu thread starter macrumors member

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    What I don't get is that Macs are for creative people: artists, photographers, directors, designers and so on...why not give us the best possible screen?

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  19. mkrishnan Moderator emeritus

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    That's a good point. Thank you for clarifying. :)
     
  20. appledu thread starter macrumors member

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    It kind of annoys me that I'm typing this on a nearly 4 year old Dell 15" laptop, at 1600x1200, knowing that the 17" MBP has a lower res....:mad:

    If MBPs are supposed to be high-end pro computers for "art people", why not have a high definition screen...it makes no sense to me, or I may be missing something!

    What is the likelihood of this being released (soon)?

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  21. mkrishnan Moderator emeritus

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    Well, the rumor mill suggests that Leopard does in fact have Resolution Independence in the developer builds. So it looks like the pieces, even according to my theory, are falling into place. We'll have to see how it pans out in Leopard though and what the answer to Anawrahta's astute question is....
     
  22. CHROMEDOME macrumors regular

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    Just buy another dell laptop.

    Everyone here knows the excact time and date when the new UWZXVGA+ 10'' ultra portable MacProBooks are coming out, they just arn't telling. Sorry.
     
  23. appledu thread starter macrumors member

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    Thanks for that, any more pointless comments you'd like to share?

    And FYI, I know a few people who would like high res screens...

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    I would
     
  25. CHROMEDOME macrumors regular

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    Everyone wants a high res screen, doesn't matter. The last powerbooks had better res than the MBPs.

    If you don't want to wait for something that you never know will ever come out just buy another dell.
     

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