When's the refresh...

Discussion in 'iMac' started by Dyn-tec, Apr 25, 2013.

  1. macrumors member

    Oct 29, 2012
    Having been wanting imac since...well before the came out.

    Now I am getting serious about it. BUT I don't want to have the same feeling I had when I bought my ipad...6mths later a better ipad was out.

    So,.....when is everyone thinking refresh will expose itself??
  2. macrumors 6502

    Mar 2, 2012
    Scotland, land of the haggis
    Probably August - November, last year the MacBooks got the refresh(ivy) before the iMac, so would think that the same will happen this year again.:)
  3. macrumors 6502

    Oct 27, 2012
    you will be waiting for a long time to avoid that feeling. just get your machine and don't look back !
  4. macrumors 68020

    Jun 15, 2012
    There will always be a better product in the future. If you need one now, get one now. It will handle anything that you need to do with it very comfortably.
  5. macrumors 6502

    Apr 12, 2013
    +1 on that! Those quad core machines with decent standard RAM, or more if you choose, can handle the workload many users will throw at it for years to come. If you're on the top end of users requiring the greatest amount of processing power, perhaps waiting will offer you a machine that may push a little harder, but for many users that quad core processor will handle their needs comfortably for a long time.

    Getting hooked on "the new one is faster" kick is unhealthy to your pocketbook. Get what you need when you need it, treat it right and use it as long as it serves your needs. You'll save a lot of money that way.
  6. macrumors 68040


    Buy a Macintosh SE, it comes with a "no hurt feelings due to updates" guarantee.

    Seriously though, the 2012 iMac is powerful to be used until the end of this decade. And being a Mac, it will actually last that long, too.
  7. macrumors member

    Nov 6, 2010
    North Wales, United Kingdom

    The current model was a major change. The next one or two updates should just be a speed bump.

    No firm rumors yet but yeah I'd expect it before November. Next speed bump will be about 6 months after that.
  8. macrumors 6502a

    May 27, 2008
    Oslo, Norway
    Im in the same boat. Waiting for that ac wi-fi. dunno if i should just bite the bullet.
  9. macrumors 65816


    Sep 1, 2010
    Just get one now and dont look back, im REALLY glad i bought mine prior to the 2012 refresh, i can replace the Ram, HDD with an SSD myself (as well as adding my own, larger, faster aftermarket SSD) and i have a DvD drive which , despite apple trying to persuade everyone otherwise, is still needed for an iMac to qualify as an All-In-One unit as much software does in fact still come on those wee plastic disks :D
  10. macrumors 68030


    Jul 11, 2008
    Given that the average refresh time of the iMac is about 9 months, umm, you're pretty much never buying one.

    Pro tip: The late 2012 models are very nice. The new models will be late 2013, and offer essentially nothing worth waiting for. If you're ready to buy, then buy. If not, wait until you're ready to buy.
  11. macrumors 6502a

    Aug 17, 2010
    App Q&A testing by request.
    I'm gonna give a different opinion...

    WWDC is in a month. I figure any spec bump would happen around then, then any new model won't be for many months later. So I think I'm gonna wait the 1 month til I buy.
  12. macrumors 6502a

    Jun 15, 2011
    Stockholm, Sweden
    Which is exactly why you should wait for the next refresh before you buy it so Apple can sort out all baby-sicknesses. And speed bumps aren't bad...
  13. macrumors 68030


    Jul 11, 2008
    What if I tell you the spec bump is in September, and they're going Retina at WWDC June 2014? Now, I don't actually know anything, but that scenario is at least as likely as yours - given Cook's comments, it certainly doesn't sound like they have much hardware at this year's WWDC.
  14. macrumors G3

    Apple fanboy

    Feb 21, 2012
    Behind the Lens, UK
    I think 2014 at the earliest. As others have said if you need a machine now just buy it already. Life is too short.....
  15. macrumors 6502a

    Aug 17, 2010
    App Q&A testing by request.
    I'd say, there's a difference between waiting a month and waiting 5 months.
  16. macrumors 68030


    Feb 6, 2011
    iMac is a product line which Apple not really "care" about. Desktop is a secondary product nowadays.

    So I wouldn't worry about being left out when buying an iMac. Even if I bought it on a launch day, that would leave me maybe 1 year before the new refresh come up and make my product last.

    On the other side, Haswell gives you nothing but a very very minor performance boost on the iMac side. It's all about iGP improvement over Ivy Bridge.
    And also for the GPU side, there's no suitable GPU comes out yet from nVidia.
  17. macrumors 6502a

    Jun 24, 2012
    I have a 2012 iMac, and I too can also replace the RAM, HDD and SSD myself, so no downside there.

    I don;t have an internal optical drive though, so I got an external USB one for £10 that I keep in a drawer.

    Upsides are that it is more powerful, less power hungry, cooler-running and has USB3 ports.

    I am REALLY glad I bought mine after the 2012 refresh.
  18. macrumors 65816


    Sep 1, 2010
    You have to un-glue and mess about with a screen that was designed to be sealed, at least mine is still just a pop-off magnetic one.

    the removal of the optical drive i think is more driven by the need to sell via-itunes combined with JIs need to turn everything into a work of art and usability be damned, unlike the floppy, whose day has been and gone, DvDs are still with us, and i for one bought an iMac because its "all-in-one", having to add things like DvD drives to it just spoils the form factor anyway by having another box and wires hanging all over the place.

    On a side note, i wonder what happens if you create a Fusion Drive with two SSDs I am considering two 256gb SSDs as my upgrade internally, guess ill have to post a thread, if i can get them into a raid 0 stripe that would be awesome., as my main data drive is an external Drobo anyway,
  19. macrumors G3

    Jul 23, 2002
    Sol III - Terra
    A fudsion drive created with 2 SSDs (and no HD) is unnecessary overhead.

    If you want a size increase use RAID 0. Just remember that if one of the drives fails, you lose all your data - keep backups (which you should do anyway).

    My suggestion is if you don't have any of the SSD drives now is just get a 400 to 500GB SSD, unless you really need the speed of RAID 0.
  20. macrumors 65816

    Feb 6, 2009
    Melbourne Australia
    I wish that they update the graphics and the wi fi this year but thats asking too much. I also doubt i can hold off for retina iMac, as there is a slim chance we will see it this year or even next year. This is because it will pushing close to 4k standards.
  21. macrumors 6502

    Nov 20, 2012
    I wouldn't hold your breath on a retina screen, especially for this year. If it does come out, I'd imagine it'll be an expensive BTO option. Maybe 2014, but my money's on 2015, by which time we'd probably see another redesign.

    On the other hand, a refresh (my guess is October) will almost certainly see Hasweel processors, new GPUs, and hopefully 892.11ac.
  22. macrumors newbie

    Apr 18, 2013
    These two components alone are making me want to wait a few more months.

    Maybe less heat with Haswell CPUs as well.
  23. macrumors 6502

    Jan 21, 2010
    The next refresh of the iMac is a cloud based computer. No need for SSD, Fusion drives or hard drives anymore!! Hooray!!!
  24. macrumors regular

    Jan 23, 2006
    West Haven, CT, USA
    Given that iMacs have only just caught up with demand from late 2012, I'd be very surprised to see any change before the fall at the earliest. There may be new MacBook Pros at WWDC, but I wouldn't expect iMacs to get Haswell until later, given that Intel will need to supply as many chips as possible for laptop use, where they will make a much bigger difference.

    Seriously, something better is always going to come out - buy a machine or don't, but don't decide based on fear that an update might come out sooner than you'd like. That's no way to live.
  25. macrumors 6502

    Nov 12, 2012
    The iMac just had a major refresh. Which means all it will have is spec jumps for the next few years. There is no point in waiting as there will always be a faster one coming.

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