which browser to use as backup?

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  1. jackc macrumors 65816

    jackc

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    I've come across a few sites recently that give me a problem using Safari (I'm using Safari 1.0.2 with Jaguar). What's a good backup to use? I have no problem using IE, but it doesn't always work either, and I figure since it's not supported anymore, I should have a better alternative.

    Is Mozilla Firefox a good choice? I'm not really concerned with features, I use Safari the vast majority of the time, just looking for compatibility with the occasional anti-Safari site.
     
  2. drjekyl macrumors newbie

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    FireFox or opera

    Seems that both firefox or Opera work well with the sites that don't like safari. Firefox is my first choice though.
     
  3. advres Guest

    advres

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    Russ White@smalldog

    This is taken from Russ White from smalldog.com.

    Quote:
    Safari Alternatives Shootout
    by Russ White (Russ@smalldog.com)

    I've been having a weird video glitch with Safari on my 667MHz TiBook. *
    At random intervals, I'll see random groups of one-pixel black *
    horizontal lines randomly flash on the screen, and the screen will *
    flicker momentarily. I've tried Open Firmware resets and re-seating the *
    video cable to the screen. Heck, I even tore the TiBook down to the *
    frame and tried a known-good inverter board (the inverter controls the *
    backlighting) and cable. There was no change. The strangest thing is *
    that it only seems to happen in Safari.

    In an effort to narrow down the cause of the problem, I reset Safari, *
    but still no change. I deleted Safari's .Plist (preferences) file and *
    downloaded a fresh copy of Safari. Still no change. The only thing I *
    haven't tried is an "Archive and Install" install of Panther and I'd *
    rather not have to do that. I see system software reinstalls as a last *
    resort.

    I guess it's time to look for alternatives to Safari, at least for the *
    interim. Don't get me wrong. I love Safari. It's a fast, stable browser *
    with a minimal footprint. I love the integrated Google search and *
    SnapBack features. The ability to block pop-ups is also quite nice. The *
    only time I ever have to deal with pop-ups is when I am forced to use *
    Internet Explorer.

    That said, I always like to try out new browsers, just to see how they *
    compare to Safari. This week, I'll compare Safari to Netscape's *
    Mozilla, Camino, and Firefox browsers and the Omni Group's OmniWeb, and *
    iCab.

    Bear in mind that Firefox and Camino are still in the beta-test phase. *
    They're not finished and may behave strangely. Use beta software at *
    your own risk. That said, I haven't had any problems with them. At *
    least, not yet. ;)

    Firefox is the newest browser from the Mozilla group. It's fast and *
    stable. Safari's still a little faster, but one of the features I'm *
    enjoying in Firefox is the ability to block ads, not just pop-ups, but *
    actual ads embedded in web pages.

    I'm an old school web-surfer. I hate ads. Yes, I understand they help *
    keep the cost of the web down and I appreciate that fact. However, I *
    have never purchased anything from a web ad. I've never even clicked a *
    web ad to see what it's advertising. I'm not interested. Advertisers *
    aren't losing anything by me having their ad blocked, since I'm not the *
    type of consumer that will click on an ad.

    Firefox can also be "Skinned"--you can download customized interfaces *
    for it. Right now they're for the most part variations on the same *
    theme, but the options are there. You're not limited to a "brushed *
    metal" interface.

    Firefox also tends to handle "fussy" sites with embedded Flash better *
    than Safari. For example, 8 Legged Entertainment's website *
    (http://www.8legged.com/) never loads correctly in Safari, so, if I *
    wanted to see what problems Octopus Chef Tako had gotten himself into, *
    I had to use IE, and I'm not a fan of IE. Firefox accesses the site *
    just fine.

    You can also add other search engines into Firefox. You're not limited *
    to built-in Google. You can add whatever search engine you prefer.

    Mozilla is similar to Firefox and can also block pop-ups and ads. It *
    handles "fussy" sites fine (8 Legged's site, for example). The main *
    difference between Firefox and Mozilla is that Mozilla adds a built-in *
    IRC (Internet Relay Chat) client, an e-mail application, and a web-page *
    composing tool. However, it doesn't have a built-in search engine. *
    Mozilla is essentially Netscape Communicator from the OS 9 days recoded *
    for OS X.

    Camino is almost as fast as Safari, however, it lacks the built-in *
    search engine and the ability to block ads (it does block pop-ups, *
    though). It also lacks the additional features of Mozilla. It's a pure *
    and simple browser, nothing fancy.

    Mozilla, Firefox, and Camino can be downloaded from:

    * *http://www.mozilla.org

    OmniWeb is based on the same rendering engine as Safari. It ships with *
    ad blocking and pop-up blocking turned on by default, and it also *
    automatically blocks ads that conform to the standard size and shape *
    for ads. Just like Firefox and Mozilla, however, it lacks the *
    integrated Google search. It's also the only browser of the group *
    that's being marketed as a shareware/licensed browser. You can use OW *
    unlicensed, but you won't be able to set your own start page. It will *
    default to the OmniWeb site and try to entice you to purchase a license *
    for the browser.

    Omniweb can be downloaded from The Omni Group at:

    * *http://www.omnigroup.com

    I was going to review iCab as well, but I wasn't satisfied with its *
    performance and rendering of my suite of test websites. It was the *
    slowest of the group and it had a hard time rendering simple forum *
    pages.

    iCab can be downloaded from:

    * *http://www.icab.de/

    Speedwise, they're all pretty close. I'd have to say that ranking them *
    from fastest to slowest would go like this:

    Safari and OmniWeb
    Camino
    FireFox
    Mozilla
    iCab
     
  4. blue&whiteman macrumors 65816

    blue&whiteman

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    i'm a big firefox fan. I do have safari there but never use it. just those 2 browsers installed.
     
  5. Freakk123 macrumors regular

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    FIREFOX! FIREFOX! FIREFOX! WOO HOO! :p Or, camino. w00t.
     
  6. iindigo macrumors 6502a

    iindigo

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    San Francisco, CA
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    Camino for sure and all the way - Firefox is nice but is still too Windows-ish at this point. It also makes inappropriate use of sheets - even the application-wide preferences is a sheet.
     

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