which iMac 21,5?

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    I'm thinking about buying the new iMac 21,5 cause I can't afford the 27. What do I need it for? I like photography so for photo editing (photoshop, lightroom). Some dslr movie editing (very rare). Web browsing, movies, mp3 music and normal every day stuff. Games - not very often, I like old games - quake3, coutner-strike, starcraft but it would be fine if it could run new games like Crysis etc.
    Would iMac suit my needs? I'm thinking about buying the new cheaper one (with 640 graphics) and adding to it extra 8gb of RAM.

    What do you think? Is it a good choice?
     
  2. macrumors 6502

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    The 2012 21.5" iMacs do not have user upgradeable RAM, so you cannot add additional RAM like you could in the prior models (at least, not without pulling it all apart).

    That said, if you can get by on 8GB RAM then go for it. Otherwise, you might want to look at a 2011 or the 27".
     
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    Nightarchaon

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    I would go for a 2011 model if your stuck with the 21.5", at least that way you will have some form of expand-ability (Ram and at a push being able to add an SSD later) instead of the disposability of the modern 2012 iMac.

    I bought mine right on the edge of the upgrade to the modern style and was so glad i went with the old model, ive got 16GB Ram and an aftermarket, self fitted 512Gb SSD (still not fusioned it though)
     
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    Photography would be nice for a bigger 27" screen. Would go for the 2011 27" if there are budget constraints. Like what was posted earlier, the late 2012 21.5" iMac has a ram limit and I heard it also has ghost image retention issues
     
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    What is ghost image retention?

    In Poland its hard to buy in an apple store the old iMac - it has dust issues?
     
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    Here is a discussion about ghost image retention. It's more of a hardware problem and not a dust issue as far as I know because this happens on brand new Macs. This ghosting issues also occurs on some retina MacBook Pros.

    https://discussions.apple.com/thread/4640888?start=0&tstart=0
     
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    it would suck to have this on a new iMac :eek:

    i'm going to get probably the 8gb base 21,5...
     
  8. macrumors 68040

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    Yes, you can go for 21.5 base model..it is powerful and the 21.5 model has no issues.
     
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    and why is that? there is a different lcd on a 27 and a 21,5 iMac?
     
  10. macrumors 68040

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    i don't work at apple but seems that the 27" has more problems than 21.5"

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    Maybe yes, different brands for ips like they have for retina macbook LG and Samsung, samsung has no problems but Lg displays has ghosting issues
     
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    You are probably correct. 2 of my friends had problems with their Retina MacBook Pros' screens and both of them are made by LGs
     
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    is there a big difference between the graphic card in the base 21,5 and the one with 650m card?
     
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    I would say, yes. I have no benchmarks to back it up (there are some probably on barefeats.com), but I would estimate about 30% fps loss in 640m.
     
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    but will the base iMac 21,5 run Crysis and some other new games?
     
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    eXan

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    Well, you could always do a youtube search, like

    imac geforce 640 call of duty

    and see if there's anything of worth.
     
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    Yes you will be able to play Crysis 1 and 2 very well on high settings, Crysis 3 i guess you will play it at 900p on medium so Yes
     
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    I've suddenly thought something. Mainly I play games with my PS3 so I thought maybe I should go with the rMBP. Why?
    I am an judicial officer apprentice (not sure how you call it correctly) so you can say I'm still studying. I thought that maybe the best way would be to go with the rMBP13 and an external monitor. What do you think?

    The rMBP has very good reviews and looks more firm than the 15 inch. The 15 inch though is beyond my budget. The iMac 21,5 in Poland costs about 1700 bucks and the rMBP 2000. Nice prices, arent they?

    I would like also to have the iMac but I think that having a rMBP with an external monitor (in 2-3 months time) could be a nice option. Waiting for your opinions :)
     
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    As it is a great possibility ... I would only recommend buying the macbook pro if you're a lot on the road, otherwise, stick with the iMac. Just because in my experience I felt that using a laptop as if it were a desktop with that external monitor, you'll go through your battery life much quicker, it'll degrade much faster.


    edit: I bought a mac mini to take with me every sunday evening to go to my student house and back on fridays. I got a two screens, one back home, one in my studentroom. In addition to that, I bought a macbook air 13" for class notes only and I still got a battery life exceeding the 7 hours as promised, after one year in use I still got about 9 hours battery.
    Years before that, I only had a macbook pro 15" to do all the work, and my battery went total loss in about a year - hardly getting two hours.
     
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    Had anyone compared other ultrabooks to the rMBP? The Dell XPS 14 i7 3517U/GT630M/8GB/500GB/mSata32GB?
     
  20. macrumors 68040

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    put here the two configurations with price and lets compare them
     
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    The configuration od the Dell is above :). the rMBP is the 2013 version :)
     

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