Discussing in a thread with a narrow topic such as is Bush's administration the worst ever is pointless unless you compare it to what choice do we have. First off I don't think Bush did everything right. I think he waited too long by 12 months trying to appease the UN before going into Iraq. I think he spent too much effort trying to appease the Democrats, probably to get their votes, doing things like working with Kennedy to write I think it was the education bill. I think he spent too much time trying to out liberal the liberals in an effort to steal democrat votes from them. And that by doing so he may have lost just as many Republican votes. And yes there have been better speakers. I don't understand who would want the job, too many people going thru your past judging it for perfection, like anyone has ever led a perfect life. Like for example his abscence from the NG. No there is no evidence that says he was AWOL but there is evidence that he was Abscent With Leave as were allot of people even tho there was a war going on at the time it was a war that was winding down. But you have to look at the alternatives and Kerry isn't it. http://www.flipflopper.com/Flipflops.asp Yes this site is biased but then there wouldn't have been such a nice organized listing of factual information to make it convenient to copy into a thread like this and it doesn't invalidate the validity of what was written. The quotes I pasted are sample they are neither the best nor the worst samples I could find and I did skip around a little bit. There are many as good or better examples at that above link. My point is this it seems to me that Democrats will reinvent themselves in order to get elected. They are career politicians and nothing really matters to them except winning the whitehouse simply for the sole purpose to keep power in the hands of the Democrats. They stand for nothing without first taking a poll or a measurement so as to insure they get the maximum number of votes. The Republicans tend to stand for what they believe in even if it costs them votes. At least with them you see what you get even if you don't like what it is that you see there is very little deception. Yes from time to time individuals try to mimic the democrats and they do it badly and usually getted busted for doing it on every media channel in the universe, when if a Democrat did the same thing the media ignores it. Example lotts comment vs that senators comment about Byrd. Both mispoke, one was member of the KKK the other was a seperationists. But who got ran out of office for speaking and who got defending by the mass media as an honest mistake? It just aint fair. Now the libertarians they are really truly honest with their positions. Too bad they don't have more of a following. Problem is like the republicans if they gained too much power in the white house they would take things too far. We really would have people starving in the streets, or in forced work camps. Makes it hard for someone like me to be loyal to any one party. But you got to look at the times we are in now and the real choices we have now and right now, right this minute in time (8 months long +- a month) our best choice is Bush.