Which is the better decision---Cheaper CD or C2D????

Discussion in 'Buying Tips and Advice' started by Planner Dude, Jan 16, 2007.

  1. Planner Dude macrumors 6502

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    The refurb store has the following models:


    Refurbished MacBook Pro, 15-inch, 2.0GHz Intel Core Duo
    15.4-inch widescreen display (1440x900 resolution)
    1GB (single SODIMM) 667MHz DDR2 SDRAM
    100GB 5400-rpm Serial ATA hard drive
    Slot-load SuperDrive (DVD±RW/CD-RW)
    ATI Mobility Radeon X1600 with 256MB GDDR3 memory
    Built-in iSight Camera
    Front Row and Apple Remote
    Learn More
    Price: $1,399.00

    OR

    Refurbished MacBook Pro, 15-inch, 2.16GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
    15.4-inch widescreen display (1440x900 resolution)
    1GB (single SODIMM) 667MHz DDR2 SDRAM
    120GB 5400-rpm Serial ATA hard drive
    Slot-load 6x SuperDrive (DVD±RW/CD-RW)
    ATI Mobility Radeon X1600 with 128MB GDDR3 memory
    Built-in iSight Camera
    Front Row and Apple Remote
    Learn More
    Price: $1,599.00

    Which do you think is a better buy?

    Will i miss out on much by having the core duo over the core2 duo?

    I know 2.0 vs 2.16 is not not much of a difference, but what about the cd2 difference. The 3GB RAM would be nice, but probably not necessary for some years. Again the FW 800 is nice but I don't know if I really need it.

    I don't want to be kinking myself down the road, but if the there is not much of a performance difference then I think it would be better to take the extra cash for a RAM upgrade (aftermarket).

    So is saving $200 bucks worth??? Your input please
     
  2. livingfortoday macrumors 68030

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    Well, for $200, you get a bigger HD, faster processor, faster SuperDrive (the originals were slower, right?), but less VRAM. It depends on what you plan on doing with it. If you don't think you'll use it for games, I'd go for the C2D, since the extras seem to make it worthwhile. If you game ocassionally, go for the CD, since it has the extra VRAM.
     
  3. poopyhead macrumors 6502a

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    you can upgrade the processor later on if you feel the need to. CD and C2D are interchangable and not soldered to the mother board.
     
  4. Jasonbot macrumors 68020

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    Unfortunately the apple laptops all have soldered-on processors, unlike the iMac and macmini you will need 1337 solder skillz to interchange the processor
     
  5. BigPrince macrumors 68020

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    And then if you ever need to service it, hope to God they don;t check the processor.
     
  6. Planner Dude thread starter macrumors 6502

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    I don't do games too much....just the occasional simcity4, but I do use sketchup which is a 3d dependent app. Do you think the extra 128mb will make a big difference with those types of apps or is it just for games?
     
  7. Jasonbot macrumors 68020

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    I would rather go for the faster, better 64bit processor and larger HD than a big grapics card. sketchup runs nicely on my 2.16 iMac.
     
  8. Planner Dude thread starter macrumors 6502

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    I am just curious...have you tried sketchup on a macbook?
    If so, how does it run?
     
  9. Deputy-Dawg macrumors member

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    To the best of my knowledge the 15.4" MBP CD super drive was not capable of burning dual layer DVDs the C2D's is. Also there was considerable concern about heat issues with the CD which seem to have been resolved in the C2D.
     
  10. Butthead macrumors 6502

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    Read through the announcement threads on the C2D to find out what the differences are. I would take the C2D over the CD, just because the CD's were plagued with problems like overheating from the lack of well designed cooling/fan operation. The GPU runs at a higher clock speed in the C2D, and I'll bet this is more important overall, even for games.

    Piece of mind that Apple worked out some of the flaws in the CD, makes that extra $200 worth it for me.

    Read this article on barefeats (faster CPU, but you should see similar-small difference btw lower speed CPU's), and then click on the links for more info:

    SHOOTOUT: Two MacBook Pros -Core Duo versus Core 2 Duo

    C2D still doesn't support dual-layer IIRC, the DVD drive in the MBP 17in is thicker and does; 9.5mm vs standard 12.7mm. see link below, 1/2 way down the page

    http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/archives/dec06/122906.html
     
  11. potdude macrumors member

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    I think the decision depends on how imporant $200 is to you. If you can afford it then surely the C2D is the better machine, but if that $200 is something you can't easily part with then get the cheaper one. Who knows how wealthy those that are giving opinions are.



     
  12. Deputy-Dawg macrumors member

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    Hey pot....
    Ever hear the expression "penny wise, pound foolish". Not spending the additonal $200 could prove to be very expensive if the machine he gets tends to overheat and is unreliable.
     
  13. neyoung macrumors member

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    If the $200 isn't a huge deal to you definitely go for the upgrade.

    "CONCLUSIONS
    The MacBook Pro Core 2 Duo's advantage over the Core Duo version ranged from 9% to 60% depending on what app we ran. The faster core clock speed should provide an 8% advantage, so everything beyond that is "gravy." Most surprising were the significant gains with Aperture 1.5 and Photoshop CS2.

    More good news. Using Graphiccelerator, we were able to display the core frequencies of the ATI Mobility Radeon 1600 GPU while running OpenGL 3D games on the new 15" MacBook Pro. To our delight, the core clock jumped from 311MHz to 423MHz. The memory clock jumped from 297MHz to 450MHz. In the previous series of 15" MacBook Pros the clock speed remained at lower levels (we assume) due to cooling issues. Only the 17" MacBook Pros were up-clocking."


    from the above link http://www.barefeats.com/mbcd6.html

    You'll not only get a faster clock rate, but quicker overall performance, and a bonus of higher gpu clock rates!
     

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